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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2013, 09:50:27 PM »
Even tho I understand that different people have diffferent sizes and resistance, this whole "70-200 2.8 IS is soooooo heavy" topic is kinda tiring.

Some perspective (numbers from TDP):
Sure the 135L is close to half the weight of the 70-200....but that's saving a measly 740g.
70-300 will save you a whooping 440g
In the same range, f4 non IS will save you 785g but this isn't the same lense anymore. f2.8 non IS will save you  180g.

Honestly except during very long trek, 740g won't impact anything. A bad backpack would annoy you more than that extra weight!

The weight is more felt during shooting sessions if you don't monopod and even then, it's not imparing. I'm large but non athletic (and i mean it!) but I can shoot it for 4+ hours session and half an hour continuous.

Take it as a work out!

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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2013, 09:50:27 PM »

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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2013, 11:21:59 PM »
MKy 2 cents, I weigh in with most everybody else.  You lust for the lens, you want the lens, get it.

The weight I agree is over played (56 y/o fairly OK shape, not a problem).  The lens is big and somewhat heavy, but I manage it no problem.  I like to take bags with wheels that convert to a pack  (http://www.thinktankphoto.com/categories/rolling-camera-bags.aspx).  This way, it takes a load off and I have used it for big airports and even on some trails.

So where are you going?  Need some pointers of photo  ops?
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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2013, 12:25:21 AM »
I would agree with some of the comments made about the 70-200 II. While it may be "heavy" compared to other lenses, it's pretty manageable to carry around. I did a couple of half-day hikes throughout Yellowstone and the Tetons with my 70-200 II plus TC 1.4 on my 7D and I was fine. A little tired, sure. But nothing to complain about.
HOWEVER, make sure you have a Black Rapid strap. With the stock canon neck strap, you will definitely not be comfortable. The BR strap keeps the weight of the camera on your shoulder vs your neck.
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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2013, 01:49:41 AM »
The BR strap keeps the weight of the camera on your shoulder vs your neck.

Who in his right mind hangs a camera with a 70-200mm around their neck in the first place!? Really!
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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2013, 07:39:28 AM »
Right – decision was made last night and order has been placed.  :)

I ended up going with the 135 f2, rather than the 70-200 is II – even after I just got another portrait commission yesterday that would have paid for 50% of the big white. I understand a lot of people really love that 70-200 is II, and no doubt I will at some point (soonish no doubt…) purchase that lens, but realistically for my own shooting style and the paying commissions I get (like I said before, at least 75% of my paying work is shot in the studio, with a few weddings and events thrown in), I honestly think the 135L serves me better. I don't shoot sports, I don't shoot fast action – I do however on occasion need to shoot people stealthily (I shoot some publishing events and book people can be so shy! Even a 24-105 L makes a lot of them run…) and in low light indoor conditions. And I really like the fact that the 135L give me that extra stop, which is more useful to me than the IS.

Anyways, I'm very happy, can't wait for it to arrive now! It's been said before, and I can easily see myself investing in the 70-200 is II in the next 12 months, but for the purpose of this trip as well as for the fact that I love the pictures the 135L produces – I simply had to buy this lens first!

Also, I'm trying to take a fresh approach to my travel photography, and rather than using slow zoom lenses that mean I end up taking the same mundane and boring shots time and time again, I've set myself the mission of shooting the majority of our trip with either the 50 f/1.4 or the new 135 f/2 – I think it's cool little challenge and should produce some interesting photos, hopefully forcing me to think a little more about composition and subject placement and making me slow down a little more. I will still take the 24-104 L, which along with it's excellent IS, I know can always bail me out… but the idea is to use primes. IQ is top of the list of requirements.

So, final gear list for the road trip will be:
5DMkII
24-105mm f/4 L IS
50mm f/1.4
135mm f/2 L
Tripod x 2 (one full size, one compact travel size)
Vivitar 285 flash (strobist)
430exII flash (strobist + the odd spot of ETTL)
Radio triggers + receivers
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (for CF card dump & basic RAW editing and processing while on the road)
Lowepro Event Messenger 250 to carry all of the above.

@scottkinfw: Yes please  - would love photo op's and recommendations! Here's the route we currently have planned (not set in stone by any means – we've got the first 2 nights booked in NYC, after that we pick up the car and just start driving.) :

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=New+York,+NY,+USA&daddr=Boston,+MA,+USA+to:Bangor,+ME,+United+States+to:Halifax,+NS,+Canada+to:Toronto,+ON,+Canada+to:Niagara+Falls,+ON,+Canada+to:New+York,+NY,+USA&hl=en&ll=44.323848,-70.620117&spn=10.985452,26.191406&sll=44.264135,-71.560629&sspn=10.997155,26.191406&geocode=FXFAbQIdK8KW-yk7CD_TpU_CiTFi_nfhBo8LyA%3BFZ9WhgIdw7bD-ykbMT0NLWXjiTGg6GIBJL98eA%3BFZ6cqwIdqojm-ym9KREQRkuuTDF3dq-nsBgJTQ%3BFZ5JqQId6Oo1_CnB-tsHFCFaSzHcLYtDpuNrZg%3BFWoYmgIdcLVE-ymlO8bXkMvUiTF3xLQqUFU1Mg%3BFZZ-kQIdcEJJ-ym5TYLsXkTTiTGIor1WYcXSRg%3BFXFAbQIdK8KW-yk7CD_TpU_CiTFi_nfhBo8LyA&oq=New&mra=ls&t=m&z=6

PS: To all of those who've recently commented on the weight of the 70-200 really not being that big a deal on the bigger picture: I do agree - while I was trying to decide, I added up all my equipment weight, and indeed the 750g extra would not make as significant a difference as some make it out to be. It did not end up effecting my purchase decision.
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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2013, 08:23:00 AM »
Very cool decision to bring only primes. The thing that amazes me though is that you're bringing all those flashes and tripods, something I would cut down on in favor of bringing lenses instead. Besides,those primes do help a lot with available light photography.
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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2013, 08:41:28 AM »
For travel I would most certainly consider the 70-300L to complement you 24-105. It is a very capable lens. However if you need full speed the 70-200 will never ever disappoint you and you can complement it with a TC even if these combinations make it a little clumsy for travel. For speed the 135 is even better though no IS for non moving subjects nor any focal length flexibility.
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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2013, 08:45:29 AM »
Very cool decision to bring only primes. The thing that amazes me though is that you're bringing all those flashes and tripods, something I would cut down on in favor of bringing lenses instead. Besides,those primes do help a lot with available light photography.

Yeah... it's a valid point! Then again, once you've caught the strobist bug - 2 speedlites and a second tripod to be able to get both of them mounted off-camera is just about the lightest way to travel. Otherwise, it's a case of bringing lightstands, bigger strobe heads and potentially battery packs... The way I see it: I would be packing one flash and tripod guaranteed. No way I'd travel without - ever. This way I pack one additonal (smaller travel sized) tripod and the ol' Vivater 285. Not massively more weight overall, but makes for very flexible lighting options.

and there me be a small possibility that I may end up treating myself to a little 'souvenir' while out there... maybe 85mm f1.8? Honestly, I think I'm about to be diagnosed with a bad case of 'gas'...  ;D
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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2013, 09:36:03 PM »
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and there me be a small possibility that I may end up treating myself to a little 'souvenir' while out there... maybe 85mm f1.8?

You should hit up the B&H store while you're in NY, if you have the time. Definitely a cool spot to look around and try out gear.

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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2013, 04:14:22 AM »
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and there me be a small possibility that I may end up treating myself to a little 'souvenir' while out there... maybe 85mm f1.8?

You should hit up the B&H store while you're in NY, if you have the time. Definitely a cool spot to look around and try out gear.

Thanks for the tip sjschall! Just had a look at their website and indeed this looks close to photo equipment Nirvana.
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Re: Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?
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