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Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« on: August 23, 2013, 12:08:07 PM »
So I have a buyer lined up through CL to sell off my hardly-ever used 24-105mm for $800. Ever since purchasing the 24-70mm mk2, it has been gathering dust. I'm not lacking anything over that FL range, so it shouldn't bother me, but...

I just wonder, am I missing something obvious about this lens? I have wanted to love it since I bought it over a year ago. So many people on this forum and others extoll its virtues (IQ, versatility, IS). To be frank - I just haven't seen it. And I think it sounds great on paper - good FL range, IS, compactness. It SHOULD be my go-to walkaround lens. But it isn't.

I did the AFMA on focal, but I've never been able to get true sharpness from this lens in darn near any situation. My prior workhorse was a Canon 17-55mm 2.8 on a T3i, and I didn't observe signiciant difference in the "upgrade" to the 24-105 (although, I felt color was noticeably better).

I'd hate to have seller's remorse if there is some secret to its awesomeness I just haven't unlocked yet. Or maybe I just have a crap copy. I suppose since I'm getting about the same as I paid for it. No loss, and hopefully prices will be similar in the future if I want to try to jump in again. What do you think; will I regret it?
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Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« on: August 23, 2013, 12:08:07 PM »

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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 12:18:51 PM »
I sold mine and haven't regretted it.  The only real advantage I see to the 24-105L over the 24-70L II is that the former has IS - if you're shooting static scenes in dim light without a tripod, that can be a huge advantage, giving you the exposure of an f/1.4 lens without the thin DoF.
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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2013, 12:30:55 PM »
I sold mine a week after I got the 24-70/2.8 II. That was 6 months ago and I haven't missed it yet.
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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2013, 12:43:23 PM »
 I'm not sure if the mkii is lighter than the original,  but from previous conversations purple have gone back to the 105  because it was lighter and didn't cause an ache over a full day of shooting.

I  think you will be fine and my concern is whether I want to sell mine to get a 24-70mkii...  but I see no reason to have both.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2013, 12:52:26 PM »
If you did not sell now but kept it for another six months or so and still not using it, you'll know for sure that it will be ok to sell.
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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2013, 12:53:02 PM »
I do not have 24-70 2.8 II so maybe I am not entitled 10)% to express an opinion but I am satisfied with my 24-105. You will not lose only IS but the 70-105mm range as well. You may have this range in another lens, say a 70-200 but unless you always carry 2 bodies you will have to switch lenses more often. Unless you tend to use the lens more at the wide  end.

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 12:55:01 PM »
If you did not sell now but kept it for another six months or so and still not using it, you'll know for sure that it will be ok to sell.
+1 That I admit is a good idea. I would make it a year though to increase the possibility that most  (if not all) of activities that OP is involved are encountered.

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 12:55:01 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2013, 01:00:43 PM »
There is no comparison between the 24-70ii and the 24-105 is...24-70 is just incredibly sharp! All serious photographers need the 24-70ii and the 70-200ii in their kit!

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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 01:04:05 PM »
I just wonder, am I missing something obvious about this lens? I have wanted to love it since I bought it over a year ago. So many people on this forum and others extoll its virtues (IQ, versatility, IS). To be frank - I just haven't seen it. And I think it sounds great on paper - good FL range, IS, compactness. It SHOULD be my go-to walkaround lens. But it isn't.

If you are using the 24-105 on a cropped-frame camera, it will never be anywhere near as sharp as if you use it on a full-frame camera.

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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2013, 01:46:09 PM »
All serious photographers need the 24-70ii and the 70-200ii in their kit!

All serious photographers with deep wallets that is.... Or are you not a serious photographer without these lenses?  :P
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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2013, 02:01:11 PM »
I have found as a video shooter that the 24-105 is just a perfect B roll lens.  Light, great at wide, great at 105, has IS, allows fairly shallow DOF at long end wide open, but too shallow.  It's just a workhorse - I might shoot 100-150 clips in a day on a project for B roll and it works well.  That said, if somebody made a 16mm-70mm 2.8 or 4 IS  that would be the perfect lens, paired with a 70-200. 

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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 02:12:21 PM »
There is no comparison between the 24-70ii and the 24-105 is...24-70 is just incredibly sharp! All serious photographers need the 24-70ii and the 70-200ii in their kit!

Guess I'm not a serious photographer then  ;)

Seriously, it depends upon how much pp work you are able to do. For those who need to produce images straight off the camera due to time or volume constrains then you'll see a difference. For those that want a higher quality IS standard zoom the 24-70 f4 is very good in practice, despite the so-so reviews.

There seems to be an unacceptable amount of copy variation in the 24-105. This may explain why some people are dissatisfied with theirs.

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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2013, 02:13:55 PM »
All serious photographers need the 24-70ii and the 70-200ii in their kit!

All serious photographers with deep wallets that is.... Or are you not a serious photographer without these lenses?  :P

Serious photographers use primes  ;D

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2013, 02:18:09 PM »
Serious photographers use primes  ;D

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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2013, 02:22:50 PM »
If you are using the 24-105 on a cropped-frame camera, it will never be anywhere near as sharp as if you use it on a full-frame camera.
I agree completely. Shortly after getting the 24-105, I moved to a 5D3... where its flaws are even more apparent IMO. Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Canon 24-105mm f/4 IS : Seller's remorse?
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2013, 02:22:50 PM »