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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2013, 09:56:02 PM »
I think Canon (and any other sensor manufacturer) will need to make a major technical breakthrough to seriously increase high ISO image quality in cropped sensor cameras from where they have been the last couple of years. From what I can tell, Canon hasn't done much to surpass the high ISO quality of the 7D, which is a 3 year old camera at this point. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the 7DmkII to be seriously better at high ISO than the current lineup of cropped sensor cameras, whether it's the 70D, 60D or 7D you are comparing it to (except perhaps for improved in-camera JPG NR processing, which is not a true improvement to my way of thinking).

The 6D (or 5DmkIII) are significant improvements in this respect, there really is no comparison. It will be interesting to see if there are improvements to be had in the next generation of the 5D series, which we may not see for a couple years yet. So, realistically, if you want improved high ISO performance today or in the foreseeable future, the 6D is the logical choice, hands down (or the 5DmkIII if you want more features).

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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2013, 09:56:02 PM »

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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2013, 03:09:30 AM »
Thanks everyone for your replies.  Being able to push a camera to ISO 3200, even 6400 and have acceptable results would be fantastic.

Not to get off topic, but can anyone compare their ISO experience between the 5D Mark II and the 6D?  They are close in price refurbished, just wondering how they compare at the higher ISO settings.

Thanks!
The 6D is pretty much superior to the 5D Mark II in every single way.

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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2013, 10:27:27 PM »
If you look at the ISO comparisons on TDP the 6D is about half a stop better. Definitely not one full stop, but a good improvement.
However, I got a used 5D2 for a little over $1K (low actuations, good condition). Considering how good the 5D2 still is, I would look around the secondary market for a while before settling on a 6D, especially if you're just looking to upgrade from crop.
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2013, 11:31:33 PM »
If you look at the ISO comparisons on TDP the 6D is about half a stop better. Definitely not one full stop, but a good improvement.
However, I got a used 5D2 for a little over $1K (low actuations, good condition). Considering how good the 5D2 still is, I would look around the secondary market for a while before settling on a 6D, especially if you're just looking to upgrade from crop.

I've handled a 6d and ergonomically I find it less handy than my 5d2. The 5d2 has some annoying functional limitations but as far as IQ goes, it's awesome. I was under the impression though that the 6d was a bit better than less than a full stop, ISO-wise... But I guess the figures don't lie.

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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2013, 02:07:28 AM »
Just took these tonight at the DuQuoin State Fair.
Canon 6D, EF 70-200 f/4L USM
1/250, f/4, 200mm, ISO 12800

1/200, f/4, 126mm, ISO 12800

EF 24-105
1/200, f/4, 105mm, ISO 3200


If only I had a 2.8 70-200.  Maybe next year I'll get the new Tamron.  The EF 135L f/2 is next on my list.
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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2013, 10:23:43 AM »
If you look at the ISO comparisons on TDP the 6D is about half a stop better. Definitely not one full stop, but a good improvement.
However, I got a used 5D2 for a little over $1K (low actuations, good condition). Considering how good the 5D2 still is, I would look around the secondary market for a while before settling on a 6D, especially if you're just looking to upgrade from crop.

There is more to it than charts.  I've used both cameras extensively, and the difference in real use is more dramatic than that.  The 6D has far, far less color banding and color noise, even at very high ISO.  Furthermore, the noise renders in a very pleasing, film grain like fashion, making it actually an asset for certain shots.  There was noticeably more latitude in the RAW image for processing and, in particular, pulling shadows.  I quickly dumped my 5DII for a second 6D.  It is my opinion that as far as image quality goes, the 6D is actually the best product Canon currently has.

Functionality and AF are another argument, but image quality is the 6D's greatest strength.
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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2013, 10:27:52 AM »
This is a question that has no answer..... it all depends on subject matter, lighting, ability to post-process files, and personal preference.
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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2013, 10:29:57 AM »
Just took these tonight at the DuQuoin State Fair.
Canon 6D, EF 70-200 f/4L USM
1/250, f/4, 200mm, ISO 12800

1/200, f/4, 126mm, ISO 12800

EF 24-105
1/200, f/4, 105mm, ISO 3200


If only I had a 2.8 70-200.  Maybe next year I'll get the new Tamron.  The EF 135L f/2 is next on my list.
Thank God for the White Balance Selector Tool in LR!!!


Those are some really clean looking shots.  Nice work.
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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2013, 12:36:52 PM »
Thanks.  I'm starting to see the limitation of my glass for low light events.  12800 wouldn't have been necessary to try to get 1/200 with the 2.8s.  It's nice to know that I can shoot higher and not have to go too crazy with the NR.
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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2013, 03:43:50 PM »
It all really depends on how big your going to present the photo. I found that a 100% crop on screen will be basically noiseless up until around ISO 2000, with a bit of noise reduction. If I'm not printing a wall mural or poster I wouldn't hesitate to go way above that. I had a 60D before and was amazed at the difference in noise level. I think its the biggest difference.

Basically, on the 60D I felt obligated to keep the ISO low which limited my creative decisions. On the 6D, I don't worry about the ISO, it's not limiting.

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Re: 6d Highest Usable Iso?
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2013, 03:43:50 PM »