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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #75 on: August 29, 2013, 09:06:38 AM »
Here is my guess:

EF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 IS $1499 - similar to the EF version in quality but smaller in size w/o weather sealing.

...to compliment an imminent 7D MKII announcement!

Might sound crazy, but it is the one major gap in the EF-S lens series and would be a huge seller w/ the 7D MKII and 70D.
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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #75 on: August 29, 2013, 09:06:38 AM »

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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #76 on: August 29, 2013, 09:21:00 AM »
Here is my guess:

EF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 IS $1499 - similar to the EF version in quality but smaller in size w/o weather sealing.

...to compliment an imminent 7D MKII announcement!

Might sound crazy, but it is the one major gap in the EF-S lens series and would be a huge seller w/ the 7D MKII and 70D.
I fully agree. The full frame body owners would say "buy EF lenses" because they think you will someday make the leap to full frame. :( Well, I say do not intend to move to full frame, and would be very happy with a lens like the EF-S 70-200 F2.8 IS, or 55-150 F2.8 IS. Where are the high quality lenses, lighter and cheaper? >:( Ah ... They are only in Sigma. :o

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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #77 on: August 29, 2013, 09:32:36 AM »
Here is my guess:

EF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 IS $1499 - similar to the EF version in quality but smaller in size w/o weather sealing.

...to compliment an imminent 7D MKII announcement!

Might sound crazy, but it is the one major gap in the EF-S lens series and would be a huge seller w/ the 7D MKII and 70D.


More thinking about a 55-135mm f/2.8 IS...
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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #78 on: August 29, 2013, 09:37:05 AM »
Here is my guess:
EF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 IS $1499 - similar to the EF version in quality but smaller in size w/o weather sealing.
...to compliment an imminent 7D MKII announcement!
Might sound crazy, but it is the one major gap in the EF-S lens series and would be a huge seller w/ the 7D MKII and 70D.

More thinking about a 55-135mm f/2.8 IS...
In the past did Tokina 50-135mm f2.8 but no longer does. :'( Now only Sigma 50-150 F2.8 OS, which seems a good lens, but size and weight seem as large as 70-200 F2.8. :(
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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2013, 09:55:06 AM »
Here is my guess:

EF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 IS $1499 - similar to the EF version in quality but smaller in size w/o weather sealing.

...to compliment an imminent 7D MKII announcement!

Might sound crazy, but it is the one major gap in the EF-S lens series and would be a huge seller w/ the 7D MKII and 70D.

Wouldn't you think an EF-S 70-300mm IS F4 would be more likely?
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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2013, 10:11:35 AM »
Here is my guess:

EF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 IS $1499 - similar to the EF version in quality but smaller in size w/o weather sealing.

...to compliment an imminent 7D MKII announcement!

Might sound crazy, but it is the one major gap in the EF-S lens series and would be a huge seller w/ the 7D MKII and 70D.
Wouldn't you think an EF-S 70-300mm IS F4 would be more likely?
Yes, I wish it was. But, according to statement of Neuro:

"for a telephoto design, the size of the image circle isn't limiting, the limiting parameter is filling the entrance pupil with light, and the entrance pupil is effectively at the front element."

So it seems 300mm does not allow a great advantage of EF-S in size and weight compared to EF.
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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2013, 10:53:56 AM »
The 40mm was a pretty big hit, how about another EF pancake of some sort?

A big small lens announcement  ???
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« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2013, 10:53:56 AM »

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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2013, 11:01:27 AM »
The 14-24 would be typical as I've just bought a 16-35

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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #83 on: August 29, 2013, 11:02:07 AM »
Here is my guess:

EF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 IS $1499 - similar to the EF version in quality but smaller in size w/o weather sealing.

...to compliment an imminent 7D MKII announcement!

Might sound crazy, but it is the one major gap in the EF-S lens series and would be a huge seller w/ the 7D MKII and 70D.

Wouldn't you think an EF-S 70-300mm IS F4 would be more likely?

The only problem with that is that APS-C really needs F/2.8 for optimal quality in low light due to its smaller sensor and the noise seen in higher ISOs.  Thus, a F/2.8 IS EF-S telephoto zoom with L-lens quality (on par with the 17-55 & 10-22) would really fit the bill, and it would be a cool option if it was a bit lighter and smaller than the EF 70-200mm f2.8 IS II, perhaps by having polycarbonate body (but metal mount) instead of metal body and utilizing advantages of EF-S for a bit smaller size/weight.

It shouldn't be Canon's marketing strategy to get people to dump 1.6 crop for full frame.  It should be their strategy to market that each are better at different things (which is actually true) and get people to buy into BOTH.
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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2013, 11:29:54 AM »
A new big white for the masses please.  This could be a couple of different forms---100-400L, 400 mm f/5.6 IS or a 500 mm f/5.6 IS (that one may cost, say $3-5k, but with great optics, I'd buy it)

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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #85 on: August 29, 2013, 11:33:14 AM »
Here is my guess:

EF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 IS $1499 - similar to the EF version in quality but smaller in size w/o weather sealing.

...to compliment an imminent 7D MKII announcement!

Might sound crazy, but it is the one major gap in the EF-S lens series and would be a huge seller w/ the 7D MKII and 70D.

Wouldn't you think an EF-S 70-300mm IS F4 would be more likely?

The only problem with that is that APS-C really needs F/2.8 for optimal quality in low light due to its smaller sensor and the noise seen in higher ISOs.  Thus, a F/2.8 IS EF-S telephoto zoom with L-lens quality (on par with the 17-55 & 10-22) would really fit the bill, and it would be a cool option if it was a bit lighter and smaller than the EF 70-200mm f2.8 IS II, perhaps by having polycarbonate body (but metal mount) instead of metal body and utilizing advantages of EF-S for a bit smaller size/weight.


it seems to me that with the recent 55-250mm IS STM announcement, that Canon is showing their roadmap in this focal length range for the EF-S mount.  Indeed, f/2.8 in this focal length range is wonderful, but apparently, Canon expects that those who value that capability enough to make a sizable investment will purchase the real deal. 
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It shouldn't be Canon's marketing strategy to get people to dump 1.6 crop for full frame.  It should be their strategy to market that each are better at different things (which is actually true) and get people to buy into BOTH.

Well,  a lot of folks put the whites on EF-S bodies , and the use of the real deal on both bodies may be the Canon expectation.   Anyway, this is a rumor site so any and all opinions are both valid and welcome;  The suggestion is compelling, to be sure.  For some reason I just don't see Canon investing in a budget version of what can arguably be considered  a flagship achievement, not to mention the marketing value of the '70-200' label itself.

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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #86 on: August 29, 2013, 11:41:51 AM »
100-400 4.0 L @ 5000-6000€
100-400 4,5-5.6 II @ 3000 €-3500€

Announcement in September, sold in CPS stores 4-5 month from announcement. price like announced, no rebates.
Delivery on massmarket after another 4 month. Then rebates are possible on online stores like we are used to see..


Just kidding?
No. This was an price winning scenario to "optmize" the profit some years ago ....


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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #87 on: August 29, 2013, 11:42:15 AM »
Who is going to pay for a $1500 70-200 EF-S lens that is plastic, no weather sealing, no hood included, and may or may not have fluorite elements?

I know I would not!  It will still have a lot of glass and only be marginally lighter.

 
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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #88 on: August 29, 2013, 11:43:37 AM »
Maybe an wideangle L lens to fight the Sigma 1.8 Art lenses.
I own one. It is an great lens...
If Canon would produce it, the price would have benn doubled.


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Re: A Big Lens Announcement in September? [CR1]
« Reply #89 on: August 29, 2013, 11:57:24 AM »
Who is going to pay for a $1500 70-200 EF-S lens that is plastic, no weather sealing, no hood included, and may or may not have fluorite elements?

I know I would not!  It will still have a lot of glass and only be marginally lighter.

$1000 less is a lot of money :)  The f/2.8 70-200mm IS II is simply out of the price range for some people.

And, I would bet a lot of people would opt for a plastic, non-weather sealed EF-S f/2.8 70-200mm over an equivalent focal length f/4 metal EF lens.  Because although it would not be as solid in build, it would be lighter both physically and on the pocket - and you'd likely get better low light pics due to the f/2.8 aperature.
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