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How strong is the hotshoe?
« on: August 31, 2013, 04:23:48 PM »
If I attach a 600ex-rt to a 6D with a 70-200 2.8 II (or any other heavy lens), is it safe to grab the body of the flash? I don't mean grabbing it once in a while, but consistently, habitually. Has anyone heard of stories of hotshoe snapping?
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How strong is the hotshoe?
« on: August 31, 2013, 04:23:48 PM »

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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 04:51:58 PM »

Eventually, the bottom of the flash is likely to break off.  Find yourself a neck strap that has a hand strap or something.

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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 05:22:22 PM »
As stated, the hotshoe is strong but the base of the flash will break off. It's actually designed to do so as a planned failure point, and is a user-replaceable part (4 screws and a quick-connect plug), but save yourself the trouble and risk to the camera after breakaway, and find some other way to carry the rig. I'd recommend a Blackrapid strap or SpiderPro holster.
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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 05:54:13 PM »
I destroyed a flash that way, and it was only a 5d and some
Light primes, one too many times and the flash started giving me
Full dumps, and wouldn't trigger wirelessly correctly.

+1 for a Black Rapid strap .
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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2013, 08:41:18 PM »
Why not grab it by the lens, e.g. using the tripod foot rotated upwards. It's best to grab the heaviest part anyway.

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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 09:01:01 PM »
I can't understand why you would want to grab it by the flash....
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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 09:54:45 PM »
I don't do this. But I've seen someone do it and I got curious. I don't have blackrapid but I got something similar.
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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2013, 09:56:50 PM »
Yes, it's entirely sensible to grab your kit by the cheapest most lightly constructed part.

Clue,  The body and lens are metal for a reason.

I hate to flame, but this really is a dumb question.

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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 10:07:39 PM »
Yes, it's entirely sensible to grab your kit by the cheapest most lightly constructed part.

Clue,  The body and lens are metal for a reason.

I hate to flame, but this really is a dumb question.

I don't think it's a dumb question. My 580EX flash feels really strong, I had no idea there was a designed fail-point there. I had assumed that it was strongly built, so  I've grabbed my camera by the flash before, but I won't anymore. Thanks for asking this question!

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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2013, 10:49:50 PM »
You will regret doing that.  And it will be expensive as well as painful.
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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2013, 10:55:41 PM »
Grab a kit by a flash and your flash will be destroyed, and gravity be gravity, anything supported beneath the fail point will also almost likely be destroyed.

It's a dumb question.

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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2013, 10:59:34 PM »
Grab a kit by a flash and your flash will be destroyed...

Depends on the kit.  I grab and carry by the 600EX-RT...when I have one of my flashes mounted on the EOS M + 22mm f/2.   :)
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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2013, 11:03:25 PM »
Grab a kit by a flash and your flash will be destroyed, and gravity be gravity, anything supported beneath the fail point will also almost likely be destroyed.

It's a dumb question.

"Dumb" is not asking the question.

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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2013, 11:23:37 PM »
Grab a kit by a flash and your flash will be destroyed, and gravity be gravity, anything supported beneath the fail point will also almost likely be destroyed.

Depends on whether or not the strap is around your neck at the time.

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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2013, 07:20:02 AM »
I can't testify about the 600 but back in the day when I supervised one watch of a police departments Physical Evidence Section.  We broke so many Vivitar 287 hotshoes that it became standard practice to replace them with an aluminum after market shoe upon purchase (didn't want them to fail in the field).  And we were only using them on Nikons with 50mm lens most of the time. 
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Re: How strong is the hotshoe?
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2013, 07:20:02 AM »