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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2013, 08:52:46 PM »
I'd be interested in a full frame M... :)

I would buy one tomorrow if it has EVF, good manual controls, and focus peeking all rapped up nicely in a range finder style body.  Sadly Sony will beat them to it.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2013, 08:52:46 PM »

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2013, 09:42:47 PM »
What they actually need is the new 70D AF system. How can they expect the M line to be taken seriously and then not give it the new 70D liveview AF? Isn't the reason the system was a failure because were mad about the AF?
(I've honestly barely looked into M at all so I may be saying things ridiculous and or off-base though)

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2013, 09:46:20 PM »
I would buy one tomorrow if it has EVF, good manual controls, and focus peeking all rapped up nicely in a range finder style body.  Sadly Sony will beat them to it.

Sony may have some decent mirrorless offerings, but their lens selection is pathetic.
I will pick m43 any day over Sony.

However, ultimately, DSLRs are still my preferred choice. I used the OM-D for a year and it gave me some great images but I also came to realize I hated EVFs. Also, the grips on these mirrorless cameras are far too small... regardless of how much padding they put on. So, I sold all my m43 stuff and happily ran back into the comforting embrace of my Canon DSLRs.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2013, 09:48:53 PM »
Hopefully the will add the dual pixel auto focus from the 70D. 

Other than that, I'd love to see more lenses.  Fast primes would be awesome.
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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2013, 10:09:23 PM »
What they actually need is the new 70D AF system. How can they expect the M line to be taken seriously and then not give it the new 70D liveview AF? Isn't the reason the system was a failure because were mad about the AF?
(I've honestly barely looked into M at all so I may be saying things ridiculous and or off-base though)

I would like to see them taking some of the features from the 70D (AF system, like you mentioned) as well as some from the G16 (especially focus peaking).  Couple those, and you start to have an interesting camera.

If the new EOS M has these, an (optional) EVF and remote shutter release socket, I will start looking at it more closely.

I would still look at one of the current EOS Ms, if going cheap, as a candidate for IR conversion.
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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #50 on: September 03, 2013, 10:20:16 PM »
I would still look at one of the current EOS Ms, if going cheap, as a candidate for IR conversion.

Hmmmm.... great idea. Think I will do that too.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2013, 10:27:35 PM »
What they actually need is the new 70D AF system. How can they expect the M line to be taken seriously and then not give it the new 70D liveview AF? Isn't the reason the system was a failure because were mad about the AF?
(I've honestly barely looked into M at all so I may be saying things ridiculous and or off-base though)

I would like to see them taking some of the features from the 70D (AF system, like you mentioned) as well as some from the G16 (especially focus peaking).  Couple those, and you start to have an interesting camera.

If the new EOS M has these, an (optional) EVF and remote shutter release socket, I will start looking at it more closely.

I would still look at one of the current EOS Ms, if going cheap, as a candidate for IR conversion.
For focus peaking, there's magic lantern. It's free, risk free and easy to install. One of the benefits of having a Canon.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2013, 10:27:35 PM »

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2013, 10:57:01 PM »
I would buy one tomorrow if it has EVF, good manual controls, and focus peeking all rapped up nicely in a range finder style body.  Sadly Sony will beat them to it.

Sony may have some decent mirrorless offerings, but their lens selection is pathetic.
I will pick m43 any day over Sony.

However, ultimately, DSLRs are still my preferred choice. I used the OM-D for a year and it gave me some great images but I also came to realize I hated EVFs. Also, the grips on these mirrorless cameras are far too small... regardless of how much padding they put on. So, I sold all my m43 stuff and happily ran back into the comforting embrace of my Canon DSLRs.

Who said anything about using Sony Lens.  I now have almost a full set of legacy FD/M42 primes and for those closer to full frame is better.  The only native lens I use regularly is the 10-18mm.
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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #53 on: September 03, 2013, 11:10:31 PM »
Canon sensor, image processing, near-full support for FD lenses with a non-optical-element adapter (for the first time in the EOS era), plus some of the best not-pro optics for an aps-c camera to date (as well as a nice price drop): it was a no-brainer for me.

But the premium model should have a built-in EVF and the current model (as well as its successor) should (have been if it wasn't +) be hard-wired for a hot shoe mount EVF (lacking only firmware implementation) and in short order the hot shoe mount evf should be available for all new Canon dslrs too.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2013, 11:35:56 PM »
What they actually need is the new 70D AF system. How can they expect the M line to be taken seriously and then not give it the new 70D liveview AF? Isn't the reason the system was a failure because were mad about the AF?
(I've honestly barely looked into M at all so I may be saying things ridiculous and or off-base though)

I would like to see them taking some of the features from the 70D (AF system, like you mentioned) as well as some from the G16 (especially focus peaking).  Couple those, and you start to have an interesting camera.

If the new EOS M has these, an (optional) EVF and remote shutter release socket, I will start looking at it more closely.

I would still look at one of the current EOS Ms, if going cheap, as a candidate for IR conversion.
For focus peaking, there's magic lantern. It's free, risk free and easy to install. One of the benefits of having a Canon.

I have not tried out Magic Lantern on my M but tried out focus peeking 60d.  I found Sony's implementation on the Nex 6 easier to use.  But I like Magic Lanterns artificial slit prism old fashioned phase detection view.  I need to play with it more.  It will still be useless in sunlight without a EVF of some type.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2013, 12:57:22 AM »
What is the chance for Canon to release something that is on par with other mirrorless camera, if Canon can finally release it on time? But Sony is going to release a FF mirrorless.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2013, 01:11:21 AM »
At this point.  I'd rather have the Canon SL1...
After checking out a bazillion choices, that's precisely what I have done. The SL-1 is brilliant. I got mine as a travel camera, reluctant to travel again with the weight & bulk of the 5D3 or 1D4. An EF-S 22mm pancake would be the killer extra for this tiny body.

FWIW, the final front-runners were the SL-1, the quite brilliant Olympus OM-D system then the M.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2013, 02:01:24 AM »
Lenses, lenses, lenses. More lenses to match the form factor and weight without having to use an adapter. Then maybe more people will buy into it as a "system".
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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2013, 02:43:52 AM »
Who said anything about using Sony Lens.  I now have almost a full set of legacy FD/M42 primes and for those closer to full frame is better.  The only native lens I use regularly is the 10-18mm.

No offense, but you belong to a very very very small group of users who are still stuck in the FD/M42 era. It probably makes more sense for companies to focus on the needs of the remaining 99%. :)

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2013, 08:08:36 AM »
Wishlist for the next EOS M
- Built-in EVF
- dual pixel AF like 70D
- improved dynamic range....

Lens wishlist:
- 50mm f2.5 macro IS

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2013, 08:08:36 AM »