The Next EOS M [CR2]

[bobw]

I just saw the EOS-M with the 18-55 and flash for $299.99 at the local Costco. Now I am even more tempted. I am most likely going to be moving to some sort of mirrorless really soon and have been waiting for Canon to expand their line. I would love the APS-C quality image that I got with the 7D and 60D in the small package for travel.

$300 is about what it would cost to buy just the lens and flash. The camera is nearly free. Even if you decide to upgrade the camera when the next version is available you haven't lost anything.

[Frankling]

Can't wait to get one with the new Dual Pixel Cmos!
I don't like the look of Sony NEX series.

[Woody]

Full Frame and mirrorless don't go together. An 85mm lens on an APS-C and a 135mm lens on FF have the same Field Of View. One of the BIG selling points of  mirrorless is small & light. Hanging a BIGGER FF lens on a smaller mirrorless body kills that advantage.

I should point out that a 135 f/2 FF lens designed from scratch for an EVIL FF camera can be relatively small and lightweight due to the shortened flange distance.

Personally, I will never purchase a mirrorless camera, having used one for a year. The conclusion I arrived at after one year of trial is this: I HATE EVF. 

[jebrady03]

I just saw the EOS-M with the 18-55 and flash for $299.99 at the local Costco. Now I am even more tempted. I am most likely going to be moving to some sort of mirrorless really soon and have been waiting for Canon to expand their line. I would love the APS-C quality image that I got with the 7D and 60D in the small package for travel.

$300 is about what it would cost to buy just the lens and flash. The camera is nearly free. Even if you decide to upgrade the camera when the next version is available you haven't lost anything.

Checked my local Costco, no such deal unfortunately   Not on their website either.

[bholliman]

I just saw the EOS-M with the 18-55 and flash for $299.99 at the local Costco. Now I am even more tempted. I am most likely going to be moving to some sort of mirrorless really soon and have been waiting for Canon to expand their line. I would love the APS-C quality image that I got with the 7D and 60D in the small package for travel.

$300 is about what it would cost to buy just the lens and flash. The camera is nearly free. Even if you decide to upgrade the camera when the next version is available you haven't lost anything.

Checked my local Costco, no such deal unfortunately   Not on their website either.

None available here either (Indiana).  I would buy (another) M one at this price just to get the 18-55 lens.  I would then sell the body and speedlite.

[jhanken]

Any more CR dirt on this?

I am eagerly waiting for some kind of signal as to whether the EOS-M is an evolutionary dead end (at least in the US), or whether it will continue and be worthy of investment.

[Bob Howland]

Any more CR dirt on this?

I am eagerly waiting for some kind of signal as to whether the EOS-M is an evolutionary dead end (at least in the US), or whether it will continue and be worthy of investment.

Mirrorless Rumors is saying wait until Photoplus Expo, starting the 23 of October.

[twoeye]

Mirrorless Rumors says this week:

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/new-canon-eos-m-stuff-to-be-announced-this-week/

[mountain_drew]

Mirrorless Rumors says this week:

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/new-canon-eos-m-stuff-to-be-announced-this-week/

And yet no one has been invited to anything.

[dude]

I jumped on the M with the 22mm and the mini zoom (whatever it is) when the fire sale started. Even with the updated firmware, the autofocus speed stinks. High ISO stinks. But walking around with the 22mm on during the day, it serves it's purpose well.

Would love to see full frame EF mount with eye piece M and dual pixel tech. Basically, take the mirror out of the 1DX or 5Diii and lets see what we get.

[dswtan]

Apparent M2 mention - interesting catch by Jon A T over at: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3549757

[Triggyman]

Any more CR dirt on this?

I am eagerly waiting for some kind of signal as to whether the EOS-M is an evolutionary dead end (at least in the US), or whether it will continue and be worthy of investment.

Mirrorless Rumors is saying wait until Photoplus Expo, starting the 23 of October.

I was about to jump on a $399 EOS M with lens and flash today, but good thing I read this thread. 2-3 days of more waiting won't be bad 

[DRR]

I have an EOS M, I bought it pre-firesale, and I love it. I previously had a G12, then a m43, neither one of them gave the quality I wanted, until I tried the M.

One small potential improvement to the "M2" which I haven't heard anyone mention should be a simple one - the addition of a bit of a grip on the right front of the camera, would make it much easier to hold. Even with a pancake lens (22mm) it would not make that depth dimension any larger, but would give you a great ergonomic addition.

The Panasonic Lumix GX7 is a very similarly sized m43 ILC and it has the grip - you can see from a top view photo such as this one, how it adds very little to the size, but it would help you hold the camera without squeezing it, because it gives your fingers a purchase point.



I will probably not upgrade either way, but this is something I would love for them to "upgrade" on the EOS M2.

[bowserb]

Be nice if Canon would take the Fuji route and provide really good primes.  On the other hand, Fuji doesn't have to
protect Rebel market share and wedge in a product whose only advantage is size.

I generally agree, but the advantage of a mirrorless camera is not just size.  I've used Canon DSLRs since 2003 and currently have a 5D2 and 7D plus the GNP of a small nation tied up in lenses and other Canon-specific stuff.  For me, the appeal of video with a large sensor and limited depth of field is important.  The 5D2 has a Panavision-sized view and the 7D is actually "full frame" cinema size.  The problem is, I don't really have the skill or a dedicated assistant to follow focus for video.  And the 12 minute scene limit is also from time to time a deal killer.  Inability to use the viewfinder for video is another negative.

Yes, size and weight are a consideration as well, but the ability to have full time AF for video is a big deal.  Knocking a couple pounds off the weight of an 18-200 lens/camera is a bonus.  I need a real eye-level viewfinder, otherwise I'd be jumping on the fire-sale prices on EOS-M's right now. 

As it is, Canon has missed the Christmas season.  I presume they're holding the M2 in warehouses to help their distributors unload inventory of EOS-M's and the Rebel-of-the-month.  Between Canon and Sony, my Christmas shooting is messed up.  I was ready to jump on either the EOS-M2 or the Sony NEX-VG40 APS-C camcorder and move on with either a still cam that does good video or an interchangeable lens camcorder that does good stills.  But both Canon and Sony are sitting on their new models, and I don't wish to buy into end-of-life cameras right now.

[jebrady03]

Protect Rebel market share? Money is money. Why would Canon care if someone buys either of two equally priced cameras and lenses as long as Canon makes it? The bottom line is what matters, not the assembly line.