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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #90 on: November 22, 2013, 12:17:49 PM »
I hope it has full frame and an optical viewfinder and takes EF lenses natively.


I don't. I don't and I don't.

But I just wanted to be the first to say it.

+1 for me too, Sir, Dear Mr. Paul.
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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #90 on: November 22, 2013, 12:17:49 PM »

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #91 on: November 22, 2013, 02:35:22 PM »
Protect Rebel market share? Money is money. Why would Canon care if someone buys either of two equally priced cameras and lenses as long as Canon makes it? The bottom line is what matters, not the assembly line.

Equally priced won't mean the same profits though.  It could cost more to set up new manufacturing for the M and lenses plus what it took for research and development.  Since they have been producing rebels for so long, it's probably very cheap to make anything with similar size.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #92 on: November 22, 2013, 09:03:45 PM »
I hope it has full frame and an optical viewfinder and takes EF lenses natively.


I don't. I don't and I don't.

But I just wanted to be the first to say it.

+1 for me too, Sir, Dear Mr. Paul.
Yes " I hope it has full frame and an optical viewfinder and takes EF lenses natively." + 1 Customize remote control too.
Surapon
It can't fit the EF natively because of the flange distance, just like it can't fit the EF-S lenses natively. An adapter will be necessary.

BUT I really, really hope that Canon makes a focal reducer with respectable AF speed. After all, they're already doing it with teleconverters. A focal reducer could virtually make the EOS-M a full frame camera. That would be incredible.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #93 on: November 22, 2013, 09:21:06 PM »
I hope it has full frame and an optical viewfinder and takes EF lenses natively.


I don't. I don't and I don't.

But I just wanted to be the first to say it.

+1 for me too, Sir, Dear Mr. Paul.
Yes " I hope it has full frame and an optical viewfinder and takes EF lenses natively." + 1 Customize remote control too.
Surapon
This is just my opinion, but I think that a large part of the allure of the micro 4/3 cameras is the small size. If Canon is to compete with the EOS-M they need to keep it small, and going FF means it is going to be fairly close in size to the 6D....
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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #94 on: November 22, 2013, 10:08:54 PM »
Yup.  And thats why I said "I don't. I don't and I don't".

If it's not smaller than an SL1 then what is the bloody point?

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #95 on: November 22, 2013, 11:09:01 PM »
This is just my opinion, but I think that a large part of the allure of the micro 4/3 cameras is the small size. If Canon is to compete with the EOS-M they need to keep it small, and going FF means it is going to be fairly close in size to the 6D....

A FF EOS M would not have to be as large as a 6D.  The new Sony A7 and A7r are between the current M and 6D in size.  That said, I don't think a full frame mirror less brings much to the table.  The somewhat smaller size (compared with DSLR's) is only a factor with small pancake lenses.  For anything 85mm and up, the size of the lens will negate most of the mirrorlesses advantage.
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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #96 on: November 30, 2013, 11:52:19 AM »
I've seen various CR-posters saying something on the lines of "Mirrorless is the future", how soon do you think there will be a similar tiering structure in the Mirrorless lineup as we see in the D-SLR lineup? (e.g. EOS 1M, 5M, 7M)
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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #96 on: November 30, 2013, 11:52:19 AM »

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« Reply #97 on: December 02, 2013, 01:12:24 PM »
I love the M, but wish it had the articulating a flip out LCD display, a headphone jack, audio meters on all the time, larger battery, side door for battery and SD card, not the current bottom door. HD 1080p60. Use the full frame capture for HD 1080p without line skipping. Eliminate aliasing and moire. Better low light/available light performance without digital noise. Option to record ProRes 10bit 4.2.2  Built in ND filters. Zoom lens with constant f/2.8. A smooth rocker switch in an easy location for motorized zooming like their high end lenses for video cameras usually have. EF lens mount instead of the EFM. Just make the body a little bit bigger for this EF mount and larger battery with a side door. Continuous non stop recording for video to fill the whole SD card no matter what size card we use.

Probably higher costs for all of this, but I would pay extra for all those features if they compete with BMPCC and the GH3 around $1000 or less. I got my M with 22mm lens for $300 and the 18-55mmm EFM lens for $135. Extra batteries with chargers were also very low cost. A lot of quality there for a very low price, IMO.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #98 on: December 02, 2013, 01:26:43 PM »
I love the M, but wish it had the articulating a flip out LCD display, a headphone jack, audio meters on all the time, larger battery, side door for battery and SD card, not the current bottom door. HD 1080p60. Use the full frame capture for HD 1080p without line skipping. Eliminate aliasing and moire. Better low light/available light performance without digital noise. Option to record ProRes 10bit 4.2.2  Built in ND filters. Zoom lens with constant f/2.8. A smooth rocker switch in an easy location for motorized zooming like their high end lenses for video cameras usually have. EF lens mount instead of the EFM. Just make the body a little bit bigger for this EF mount and larger battery with a side door. Continuous non stop recording for video to fill the whole SD card no matter what size card we use.

Probably higher costs for all of this, but I would pay extra for all those features if they compete with BMPCC and the GH3 around $1000 or less. I got my M with 22mm lens for $300 and the 18-55mmm EFM lens for $135. Extra batteries with chargers were also very low cost. A lot of quality there for a very low price, IMO.

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Re: The Next EOS M [CR2]
« Reply #98 on: December 02, 2013, 01:26:43 PM »