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Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« on: September 05, 2013, 09:39:06 PM »
From Lee Filters
We’ve been told that Lee Filters will soon announce a filter system for the Canon TS-E 17 f/4L. Such an accomplishment would be very welcomed in the photography world.

No word on pricing or how the system would work.

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Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2013, 09:42:57 PM »
...and if you put an order for one in now you will receive it in 10 years when it finally gets in stock.

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2013, 09:46:39 PM »
I use the 17 TS-E a lot, maybe I am unusual but I have absolutely zero interest in a filter system for it. There is nothing a filter system can do that I can't do in post when I use multiple exposures, which I do 90% of the time, other than maybe a polarizer, but on such wide angles even they introduce their own issues.

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2013, 10:22:59 PM »
I got the Fotodiox Wonderpana filter system for my 17.Very well built.
It accepts a 145mm filters (no Costco does not carry them) and I have a circular polarizer for it that works wonderfully.

They do have grad NDs available but I have not yet upgraded my kit for them.

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2013, 10:26:01 PM »
I got the Fotodiox Wonderpana filter system for my 17.Very well built.
It accepts a 145mm filters (no Costco does not carry them) and I have a circular polarizer for it that works wonderfully.

Would love to see some samples with a polarizer and this lens. Could you show us?

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2013, 10:28:35 PM »
I agree with Normal Norm as I also have the Fotodiox kit with ND2,4 & 8 and CP filters! I use the CP for color saturation and taking the shine of moisture off leaves!

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2013, 10:28:49 PM »
the 10 stop filter would be the only one i'd be interested in for a lens like the 17mm TSE. most everything else can be done in post.

it is nice Lee is developing stuff for this lens....i just wish they would do a better job at providing stock on a consistent basis
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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2013, 10:28:49 PM »

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2013, 12:15:07 AM »
obviously the main filters that would be useful would be a polarizer, big stopper or 10 stop and nd grad. You can't replicate a high density ND filter with multiple exposures it will create a choppy effect.

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2013, 12:39:38 AM »
Here is a sample with the polarizer.

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2013, 03:52:51 AM »
I use the 17 TS-E a lot, maybe I am unusual but I have absolutely zero interest in a filter system for it. There is nothing a filter system can do that I can't do in post when I use multiple exposures, which I do 90% of the time, other than maybe a polarizer, but on such wide angles even they introduce their own issues.

While I generally agree with you, a polariser can't be faked in PS. The ability to dial in the amount of visibility to see through water or reduce reflections are essential with some professional landscape work. Using multiple exposures can cover off the need for ND Grads, and is a better technique in my opinion. But, sometimes the latitude in light to gest specific exposures (usually shutter speeds) isn't within the rang which the camera can offer. So I have to carry a set of ND filters to compensate. So my WondaPanner system fro my TS-e 17mm has 4 filters in my bag for serious landscape work...it's a lot easier to use my 16-35IIL with it's smaller filter options and then post prod the converging angles. The zoom is a lot easier to use in the field, but the TS-e can offer better image quality.
One area where the TS-e 17 doesn't really work, is on the beach or where there's sea spray...any water on the big bulbous front element seems to magnify! 

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2013, 04:28:48 AM »
This sounds interesting since I both use LEE-filteras aswell I'm about to purchase the 17/4L TSE.

The thing is that I've read on forums by people talking to  LEE that they don't have any plan for that. They did have thoughts about it but they came to the conclusion that they wouldn't produce one.

This is what I will be going for:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1081875

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2013, 04:40:25 AM »
This sounds interesting since I both use LEE-filteras aswell I'm about to purchase the 17/4L TSE.

The thing is that I've read on forums by people talking to  LEE that they don't have any plan for that. They did have thoughts about it but they came to the conclusion that they wouldn't produce one.

This is what I will be going for:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1081875

The problem with the custom made adaptor is that the holder limits the maximum swing that this lens can offer...which defeats the whole reason we want to use it! If there's not enough swing or shift then I'd rather use a 16-35IIL and post prod the convergence.

The other issue with this adaptor is the size of filters used. 85mm or 100mm filters are too small for this lens, which is why the Wondapanner system uses gigantic 140mm filters....which is nearly the same size as a 400mm f2.8's front element!

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2013, 07:25:55 AM »

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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2013, 08:13:54 AM »

The problem with the custom made adaptor is that the holder limits the maximum swing that this lens can offer...which defeats the whole reason we want to use it! If there's not enough swing or shift then I'd rather use a 16-35IIL and post prod the convergence.

The other issue with this adaptor is the size of filters used. 85mm or 100mm filters are too small for this lens, which is why the Wondapanner system uses gigantic 140mm filters....which is nearly the same size as a 400mm f2.8's front element!

The custom-made Lee adapter doesn't limit swing at all.  It does limit shift to about 8-9mm on the short axis, and about 6mm on the long axis.  The adapter without the filter holder attached also helps reduce flare.
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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2013, 08:50:47 AM »
Lee was apparently supposed to have this done by end of August to use their 100mm Foundation holder. It appears that this filter arrangement will only be good for the first half of the full tilt-shift range available in the lens.

http://leefilters.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/40149-can-i-use-the-lee-system-on-a-canon-17mm-tse-lens-

I have a 17mm TS-E and am trying to decide to wait for this or look at the Fotodiox solution.
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Re: Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]
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