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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2013, 07:15:37 AM »
Here's another from the 18-55mm.  I'm actually surprised by how good the lens is - this is the type of lens that I have avoided like the plague since shooting DSLR's.  My original kit lens (on a Rebel) lasted for no more than a month before I sold it.


Brushstrokes of Autumn by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr
Impressive ... I got a really good deal for the EF-M 18-55 IS STM lens ($90), so I just ordered it ... should be arriving by Sunday.
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« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2013, 07:15:37 AM »

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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #76 on: November 20, 2013, 08:08:31 AM »
And somebody said that the M + 85/1.8 was a great combo.

Here are some metal concert pics with M + 100/2:




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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #77 on: November 20, 2013, 08:55:47 AM »
Kind of an FYI / update.  Took my M to see the grandchild this weekend.  The IQ was what I expected and I used, at various times, the 22, the 40+adapter and the zoom.  Did pretty well with existing light.  The "lag" between shots did make photos of an active young child challenging but, in balance, the lightened load of not bringing my big kit was still worth the tradeoff.  Maybe next trip I'll bring the big guns......

That bit of "lag" is the primary reason why the M is really only appropriate for situations where you are, essentially, doing one shot type work.  It does work fine with bracketing exposures, but when you are shooting and looking for any kind of feedback between shots it is limited.

I've tried the Image Review "Hold" workaround suggested by another poster, but I didn't particularly like it myself and didn't feel that it solved the problem suggested here.  I've tried turning image review off, but that doesn't eliminate the black screen lag between shots when the shutter fires.

My experience with the EOS-M and our active toddler has generally not been positive.  I have some great shots with it when I can catch him sitting relatively still at play or on somebody's lap.  But, trying to get an in-focus shot when he is playing actively is a real challenge.  Lag between shots can be frustrating as well, as great expressions or interaction with other kids always seem to occur while I'm waiting or the camera to process the previous shot and be ready to fire again.

My 6D in AI Servo mode with the 24-70mm 2.8 or 50 1.4 are my tools of choice for active kid shots.  While the 6D isn't noted for its AF prowess, I've found it does a really good job with kids.

I still love my M for other purposes.  Its a terrific portable camera with high IQ to take with you for general purpose photography  - pretty much for anything not moving quickly or randomly.

I also have been using the 6D in AI Servo model with the 50 1.4 and 24-105 (usually with the 580EX II flash). and have been very pleased with the results.  Since we are shooting pictures of our active toddler more than anything we grew too frustrated with the M and I ended up selling it (although I kept the 90EX flash).  Overall I loved the IQ for the size/weight but I guess I was being unrealistic with what the firmware update would do for action.  Still looking for a small replacement camera I can keep in a pocket that can shoot active kids.

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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #78 on: November 28, 2013, 11:10:13 AM »
I took my M on a recent trip to Kyoto as my second camera. I have to admit the images turned out alright, better than I expected. It works well in combo with my Mk II + 135L. Sometimes you just want something wide just incase, for a quick snap etc. couldn't be dealing with switching the 17-40L every time.

Here's a link to one with the 22mm. I'm at work and can't download and downsize etc.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zanjum/10904046594/in/set-72157637761257506#

Very nice shot.  Great colors and textures.  I too took the M on a recent trip to Israel and Italy as a back-up/light option to my bigger kit.  It is a great tool for that type of use, and I even carried it in a jacket pocket on one day in Rome when I didn't want to carry my larger setup.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #79 on: November 28, 2013, 11:13:28 AM »
Installed Magic Lantern ... did a time lapse a few minutes ago ... excited, can't wait to edit it ... will post the results either tomorrow or the day after.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #80 on: November 30, 2013, 08:28:42 AM »
Such a great option for traveling light, particularly with the 22mm:



This was taken in Rome.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #81 on: November 30, 2013, 11:57:01 AM »
Such a great option for traveling light, particularly with the 22mm:



This was taken in Rome.

Very nicely done! Thanks for the comments too, really appreciate it!

Just installed ML myself and can't wait to try out some of the cool features!
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Re: Review: EOS M System
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2013, 06:47:42 AM »
is there a new ML for the new firmware? I didn't reinstall ML after the firmware update
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2013, 11:45:04 AM »
is there a new ML for the new firmware? I didn't reinstall ML after the firmware update

Yes, check this link. Click on the description of the video to get the guys files. He put the files all in one easy place to make the installation process easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ5Zwt_Nwa4
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2013, 11:52:01 AM »
is there a new ML for the new firmware? I didn't reinstall ML after the firmware update

Yes, check this link. Click on the description of the video to get the guys files. He put the files all in one easy place to make the installation process easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ5Zwt_Nwa4
+1 ... I followed that video and its links to download and install ML on my EOS.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #85 on: December 02, 2013, 10:37:26 AM »
I like the camera but find changing settings difficult. Yesterday I had it out and wanted to take a custom white balance. First had to change to manual focus (buried in a menu and had to use touch), take the shot with the WB filter on, then turn AF back on, then find the Set Custom WB setting, then navigate to Use Custom WB setting. Frustrating and took far too long. Whereas on my 5D I can get it done in about 5 or 10 seconds and it's an intuitive process. Also the lack of a viewfinder makes it difficult to see many shots.

But the size, versatility and IQ combination can't be beat.

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« Reply #86 on: December 02, 2013, 07:13:57 PM »
I like the camera but find changing settings difficult. Yesterday I had it out and wanted to take a custom white balance. First had to change to manual focus (buried in a menu and had to use touch), take the shot with the WB filter on, then turn AF back on, then find the Set Custom WB setting, then navigate to Use Custom WB setting. Frustrating and took far too long. Whereas on my 5D I can get it done in about 5 or 10 seconds and it's an intuitive process. Also the lack of a viewfinder makes it difficult to see many shots.

But the size, versatility and IQ combination can't be beat.

Put those settings in "my menu" (green star) so they're easier to find.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #87 on: December 04, 2013, 09:14:07 AM »
Here's another travel shot - this is the "Sea of Galilee" in Israel.  This was a bracketed shot, and the M does just fine with that.

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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #88 on: December 07, 2013, 07:41:28 AM »
is there a new ML for the new firmware? I didn't reinstall ML after the firmware update

Yes, check this link. Click on the description of the video to get the guys files. He put the files all in one easy place to make the installation process easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ5Zwt_Nwa4

Thanks for the link Zv!  This video and links make the installation process easy.  I had tried to install earlier but wasn't successful.  I got ML installed late last night and look forward to trying it out this weekend.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #89 on: December 07, 2013, 09:32:30 AM »
is there a new ML for the new firmware? I didn't reinstall ML after the firmware update

Yes, check this link. Click on the description of the video to get the guys files. He put the files all in one easy place to make the installation process easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ5Zwt_Nwa4


Thanks for the link Zv!  This video and links make the installation process easy.  I had tried to install earlier, but wasn't successful.  I got ML installed late last night and look forward to trying it out this weekend.

You're welcome!

I received my FD to EOS M adaptor today and I've been playing with a FD 50mm 1.4 today, using the focus peaking on ML is so helpful when focusing. I'm still figuring out ML but I mainly installed it for the overlays. A little tip - switch to Monochrome picture style when using focus peaking to see the red dots easier.

What lenses you using with yours? Native M ones or something more exotic?
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« Reply #89 on: December 07, 2013, 09:32:30 AM »