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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #90 on: December 07, 2013, 10:40:10 AM »
I wanna try using ML on my EOS M but I'm hesitant to use an alpha build. Can ML be removed easily?
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Re: Review: EOS M System
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« Reply #91 on: December 07, 2013, 10:59:02 AM »
I wanna try using ML on my EOS M but I'm hesitant to use an alpha build. Can ML be removed easily?

It lives on your memory card so yes it can be formatted and erased very easily. Read the ML website instructions and guidelines about installing and removing it first though. Don't take my word for it. (I don't want to be held responsible!)

There is risk involved as with most things electronic; things can go wrong. However, if I was to choose a camera to test the water with ML for the first time, the EOS M would be a good candidate because it's relatively cheap. The alpha build seems quite stable, I'm not seeing any major bugs. Sometimes the preview screen doesn't want to zoom when pinched (This could be due to me using a manual only lens).

The question you need to ask yourself is "do you NEED magic lantern?"

The first time I tried to install it I cocked it up and I thought I broke it! I didn't panic much but there were a few minutes of self loathing!   :P

Removing the battery as soon as possible is recommended if things go wrong!

Note - after I watched the Youtube video I posted and followed those instructions, it worked.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #92 on: December 07, 2013, 11:02:58 AM »
Such a great option for traveling light, particularly with the 22mm:



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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #93 on: December 07, 2013, 11:17:09 AM »
I received my FD to EOS M adaptor today and I've been playing with a FD 50mm 1.4 today, using the focus peaking on ML is so helpful when focusing. I'm still figuring out ML but I mainly installed it for the overlays. A little tip - switch to Monochrome picture style when using focus peaking to see the red dots easier.

What lenses you using with yours? Native M ones or something more exotic?

I use the EF-M 22/2 90% of the time, really a terrific little lens!  I plan to buy a EF-M 18-55 at some point.  Nothing exotic, but I also use my EF 50 1.4, 85 1.8 and 24-70 2.8 II with the M.  The 50 1.4 makes a nice portrait lens on the M, but locking AF can be a challenge at times, I normally just manually focus it. 

Thanks for the tip on picture style, I have been experimenting with focus peaking this morning but struggled to see the dots in bright light.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #94 on: December 07, 2013, 01:05:58 PM »
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #95 on: December 07, 2013, 01:07:47 PM »
I was really excited to see this lens coming for one huge reason:  towards the end of the video I saw this and took a screenshot of it:

This is the first third party lens I have seen that supports the EOS-M mount.  That's exciting, because it speaks to at least some confidence that the mount isn't going to be abandoned.  I've already put in a request to review the lens when it launched in an M mount, so here's hoping that will happen.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #96 on: December 07, 2013, 03:09:45 PM »
I was really excited to see this lens coming for one huge reason:  towards the end of the video I saw this and took a screenshot of it:

This is the first third party lens I have seen that supports the EOS-M mount.  That's exciting, because it speaks to at least some confidence that the mount isn't going to be abandoned.  I've already put in a request to review the lens when it launched in an M mount, so here's hoping that will happen.

I thought that Samyang 16mm f/2.0 ED AS UMC CS and 300mm f/6.3 ED UMC CS Reflex Mirror Lens was the first third party lenses for Canon M mount.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #97 on: December 07, 2013, 07:08:26 PM »
I wanna try using ML on my EOS M but I'm hesitant to use an alpha build. Can ML be removed easily?

It lives on your memory card so yes it can be formatted and erased very easily. Read the ML website instructions and guidelines about installing and removing it first though. Don't take my word for it. (I don't want to be held responsible!)

There is risk involved as with most things electronic; things can go wrong. However, if I was to choose a camera to test the water with ML for the first time, the EOS M would be a good candidate because it's relatively cheap. The alpha build seems quite stable, I'm not seeing any major bugs. Sometimes the preview screen doesn't want to zoom when pinched (This could be due to me using a manual only lens).

The question you need to ask yourself is "do you NEED magic lantern?"

The first time I tried to install it I cocked it up and I thought I broke it! I didn't panic much but there were a few minutes of self loathing!   :P

Removing the battery as soon as possible is recommended if things go wrong!

Note - after I watched the Youtube video I posted and followed those instructions, it worked.
Okay, thanks. The only feature I actually want from it is focus peaking. I didn't even know what that was until I saw DigitalRev's review of the Sony A7/A7R.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #98 on: December 07, 2013, 07:59:08 PM »
I always enjoy your PP skill TWI by Dustin Abbott :).

With 2 kids (2 &5yrs), I wish I can have some spare times and learn how PP digital images.

dustin... i'm still waiting for you to write a book on your post processing workflow so i can buy it :D

nice review BTW much better than my crap attempt when i first got it :P

Tell you what: in the meantime I will try to find a place to share links to the tutorials I write for various publications.  I've got a series of three articles that will go live shortly that I did for Alien Skin. 

The downside:  when I post those kinds of links I invariably get blasted by some posters here for blatant self promotion.  Guess you can't please everyone.

I also like the PP on these photos. If you could share these links, that would be much appreciated.

Thank you also for the review. It's nice to see what the M can do in good hands :-).

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« Reply #99 on: December 07, 2013, 08:57:02 PM »
I was really excited to see this lens coming for one huge reason:  towards the end of the video I saw this and took a screenshot of it:

This is the first third party lens I have seen that supports the EOS-M mount.  That's exciting, because it speaks to at least some confidence that the mount isn't going to be abandoned.  I've already put in a request to review the lens when it launched in an M mount, so here's hoping that will happen.

I thought that Samyang 16mm f/2.0 ED AS UMC CS and 300mm f/6.3 ED UMC CS Reflex Mirror Lens was the first third party lenses for Canon M mount.

I checked the Samyang site, and you are right, although I've not yet seen a retailer selling them in that mount.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #100 on: December 07, 2013, 10:24:56 PM »
Amazon has the Samyang 16mm f2 at a pretty good discount and a bit lower price than the Rokinon version. 
http://www.amazon.com/Samyang-SY16M-M-Aspherical-Angle-Canon/dp/B00DEI3HIM

Already have the 22 and zoom for the M, so the 10mm is intriguing since Canon hasn't made the 11-22 available in the US.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #101 on: December 08, 2013, 06:19:40 AM »
I was really excited to see this lens coming for one huge reason:  towards the end of the video I saw this and took a screenshot of it:

This is the first third party lens I have seen that supports the EOS-M mount.  That's exciting, because it speaks to at least some confidence that the mount isn't going to be abandoned.  I've already put in a request to review the lens when it launched in an M mount, so here's hoping that will happen.
That's awesome ... thanks for sharing.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #102 on: December 08, 2013, 06:50:07 AM »
I was really excited to see this lens coming for one huge reason:  towards the end of the video I saw this and took a screenshot of it:

This is the first third party lens I have seen that supports the EOS-M mount.  That's exciting, because it speaks to at least some confidence that the mount isn't going to be abandoned.  I've already put in a request to review the lens when it launched in an M mount, so here's hoping that will happen.

I thought that Samyang 16mm f/2.0 ED AS UMC CS and 300mm f/6.3 ED UMC CS Reflex Mirror Lens was the first third party lenses for Canon M mount.

Terrific news!  Thanks for posting this.

I had no idea any third party manufacturers were looking to add lenses for the EOS-M mount.  Obviously Samyang feels there is sufficient market for M mount lenses, maybe other third parties will follow suit?
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« Reply #103 on: December 08, 2013, 06:49:22 PM »
I was really excited to see this lens coming for one huge reason:  towards the end of the video I saw this and took a screenshot of it:

This is the first third party lens I have seen that supports the EOS-M mount.  That's exciting, because it speaks to at least some confidence that the mount isn't going to be abandoned.  I've already put in a request to review the lens when it launched in an M mount, so here's hoping that will happen.

I thought that Samyang 16mm f/2.0 ED AS UMC CS and 300mm f/6.3 ED UMC CS Reflex Mirror Lens was the first third party lenses for Canon M mount.

I checked the Samyang site, and you are right, although I've not yet seen a retailer selling them in that mount.

Terrific news!  Thanks for posting this.

I had no idea any third party manufacturers were looking to add lenses for the EOS-M mount.  Obviously Samyang feels there is sufficient market for M mount lenses, maybe other third parties will follow suit?

I'm not sure if I would prefer EF-M dedicated Samyang 10/2.8 over the normal one (with EF mount) + adapter.
I've checked some sample images taken with this new 300/6.3 Mirror lens, and it produces such interesting bokeh effect, just like the rest of it's family :), only this one seems to be a bit sharper.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #104 on: December 08, 2013, 08:06:12 PM »
I'm not sure if I would prefer EF-M dedicated Samyang 10/2.8 over the normal one (with EF mount) + adapter.
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Since I already have the adapter I think I'd go for the EF mount after checking the specs on the 16f2, http://www.syopt.co.kr/common/pdf/f=16mm.pdf.  The EF mount is 585g and a length of 89.4mm while the EF-M mount is 615g and a length of 115.4mm.   You don't get a smaller form factor for the M, you just get a built in adapter.  The EF-M mount is about 75g lighter than the combo if that makes a difference.  I assume the 10F2.8 would be a similar story.

The 300mm is a more compact design at only 320g and 73.7mm on the M, http://www.syopt.co.kr/common/pdf/f=300mm.pdf.  It appears to be designed for shorter flange distances and doesn't have an EF equivalent.  Maybe there will be other lenses like this in the future targeted for the smaller form factor bodies.
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