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Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« on: September 18, 2013, 11:20:17 AM »
I took this picture with Sony RX100II, in low light. This is 3200ISO, JPEG straight out from camera, zero PP.

RX1 & RX 100 II always amazed me...body size and IQ.
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Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« on: September 18, 2013, 11:20:17 AM »

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2013, 11:23:22 AM »
Are those diagonal stripes across the UPC bar codes on the original box?  If added by the camera, it really ruins the image.

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2013, 11:27:30 AM »
Speaking for the "classic" RX100:
Yes, this little camera is a class of its own, highest ratio IQ vs size.
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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2013, 11:40:28 AM »
Looks good.

Sorry for OT, but "Elektronenblitzgerät" seems to be a horrible translation of "speedlight"...oh wait, it's a Nikon. ;D

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2013, 11:44:56 AM »
Are those diagonal stripes across the UPC bar codes on the original box?  If added by the camera, it really ruins the image.

If you download the original image, you don't see the stripes, at least on my monitor.  I don't think they're added by the camera.

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2013, 12:04:27 PM »
what amazes me is that people with a 700 euro camera post such "examples".   ;)

i know.. i know.. it´s just a snapshot, an example.
but it reflects bad on you as a photographer nevertheless.
there are sure some more interesting motives around you?


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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2013, 12:07:06 PM »
Are those diagonal stripes across the UPC bar codes on the original box?  If added by the camera, it really ruins the image.

lol... it´s typical when an images is not resized properly.
one more reason browsers suck for image viewing. missing or bad color management is another.

first time you see that in your browser?

btw: it looks better in FF then IE.
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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2013, 12:07:06 PM »

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2013, 12:11:10 PM »
what amazes me is that people with a 700 euro camera post such "examples".   ;)

i know.. i know.. it´s just a snapshot, an example.
but it reflects bad on you as a photographer nevertheless.
there are sure some more interesting motives around you?

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2013, 12:12:57 PM »
Are those diagonal stripes across the UPC bar codes on the original box?  If added by the camera, it really ruins the image.

What "diagonal stripes across the UPC bar codes" are you talking about? I don't see it ???
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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 12:47:45 PM »
It seems to have some potent noise reduction algorithm.

Please take a picture of something with structure... maybe a wooden table lit by candlelight.

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2013, 01:41:29 PM »
Are those diagonal stripes across the UPC bar codes on the original box?  If added by the camera, it really ruins the image.

If you download the original image, you don't see the stripes, at least on my monitor.  I don't think they're added by the camera.

That's very interesting.  Why do the diagonal stripes show on the resized photo.  By the way IQ of RX100 II looks little better than it older brother.
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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2013, 01:56:28 PM »
what amazes me is that people with a 700 euro camera post such "examples".   ;)

i know.. i know.. it´s just a snapshot, an example.
but it reflects bad on you as a photographer nevertheless.
there are sure some more interesting motives around you?

Just helping a friend selling the flash on ebay..that all

What amazes me is all the people that think there is only one use for a camera and hold a negative view of anything outside their own artistic vision.
I'm reminded of the negativity Trey Ratcliff gets sometimes.
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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2013, 02:03:30 PM »
Are those diagonal stripes across the UPC bar codes on the original box?  If added by the camera, it really ruins the image.

What "diagonal stripes across the UPC bar codes" are you talking about? I don't see it ???
All three of the bar codes have stripes on the posted image as viewed on my monitor, which is why I was wondering if they were actually there.  Others are seeing them as well.
 
I downloaded the image and noted that there were no stripes, but there appeared to be a lot of NR.  Cameras do add NR, even if turned off, and if its set to "Normal", they add more with high ISO.  Its pretty typical of all cameras at high ISO using jpeg.
 
Can you process a raw image and clean it up so we can see what the camera can really do at its best?
 
Try resizing the image to 800 pixels on the longest side.  That will prevent the built in resize software in the forum from causing any issues, but it will also prevent viewers from downloading the full size file, so that's unfortunate.  Still, only a few download it for every thousand that view the image as posted.
 

 
 
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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2013, 02:03:30 PM »

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2013, 02:14:48 PM »
The "stripes" are being caused by the forum interpolation algorithms, they are not in the file that you can drag and drop onto your computer. I have noticed with many of the images I have posted that the forum software is not kind when it re-sizes, that is why I only post 700px on the long edge images now.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2013, 02:29:21 PM »
The "stripes" are being caused by the forum interpolation algorithms, they are not in the file that you can drag and drop onto your computer. I have noticed with many of the images I have posted that the forum software is not kind when it re-sizes, that is why I only post 700px on the long edge images now.
I link to my image on Smugmug, which lets also me post larger images without the issue.
 
Either way, limit to 800 or less pixels on a side, or link to a web site that is more friendly about rendering images.
 
Another issue is that that web browsers can also downsize images and render them to the requested size.

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Re: Sony RX100 II @ 3200ISO, straight out from camera, zero PP
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2013, 02:29:21 PM »