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6D Mark II
« on: September 19, 2013, 06:01:24 PM »
Since Nikon is releasing a D610
I bet Canon will release a 6D2  ;D

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6D Mark II
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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2013, 06:05:02 PM »
Not for a while..... The 6D is still selling heaps..... Perhaps. New firmware could address a lot of issues, just like the one for the 7D did!!
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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2013, 06:15:23 PM »
I bet Canon will release a 6D2  ;D Any thoughts?

The 6d is designed to make money for Canon, not to inspire awe and excitement. As everything about the 6d is budget they will keep lowering the price until their break/even point is reached, and only then replace it, and only after the 5d4 is here.

Imho the 6d has 2-3 years of life in it, it was never meant to outgun the Nikon d600 but offer a budget ff for people who want to or have to stay with Canon.

Btw the Nikon d610 is only an embarrasing bugfix for the d600's sensor problems, so actually that's one brownie point for Canon who for the lack of enthusiasm updated the 5d2 into a mature 6d product.

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2013, 06:19:41 PM »
I bet Canon will release a 6D2  ;D Any thoughts?

The 6d is designed to make money for Canon, not to inspire awe and excitement. As everything about the 6d is budget they will keep lowering the price until their break/even point is reached, and only then replace it, and only after the 5d4 is here.

Imho the 6d has 2-3 years of life in it, it was never meant to outgun the Nikon d600 but offer a budget ff for people who want to or have to stay with Canon.

Btw the Nikon d610 is only an embarrasing bugfix for the d600's sensor problems, so actually that's one brownie point for Canon who for the lack of enthusiasm updated the 5d2 into a mature 6d product.

I agree but lets not forget the slew of awards it has won in categories where the Nikon would have been considered!

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 06:24:05 PM »
New firmware could address a lot of issues, just like the one for the 7D did!!

I Forgot to mention this: I don't expect any firmware feature updates for the 6d, actually I'd be surprised about any bugfixes at all since in the past they only graced their premium models (7d = premium crop, 5d2 = only ff then, 5d3 = premium ff now). People should not buy the 6d in the hope that something will be fixed, it is what it is.

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2013, 06:27:27 PM »
I Forgot to mention this: I don't expect any firmware feature updates for the 6d, actually I'd be surprised about any bugfixes at all since in the past they only graced their premium models (7d = premium crop, 5d2 = only ff then, 5d3 = premium ff now). People should not buy the 6d in the hope that something will be fixed, it is what it is.

what exactly needs to be "fixed"?

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 06:40:06 PM »
I Forgot to mention this: I don't expect any firmware feature updates for the 6d, actually I'd be surprised about any bugfixes at all since in the past they only graced their premium models (7d = premium crop, 5d2 = only ff then, 5d3 = premium ff now). People should not buy the 6d in the hope that something will be fixed, it is what it is.

what exactly needs to be "fixed"?

Gaining centre point f/8 AF would be fantastic. However, I tend to agree with Marsu42 that it probably won't be done.

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 06:40:06 PM »

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2013, 06:45:53 PM »
what exactly needs to be "fixed"?

This comes to mind (ask me again when my 6d arrives :-p)

  • Multipoint af servo not properly handing over focus from one point to the others, esp. not selecting the center point (CarlTN keeps mentioning this)
  • Braindead crippling that hdr source files cannot be saved
  • Crippled min. shutter in av (1/250s is the fastest? Canon, you gotta be joking! Hail to ML!)
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  • GPS off on power down, auto-enable on power up

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2013, 06:46:46 PM »
I Forgot to mention this: I don't expect any firmware feature updates for the 6d, actually I'd be surprised about any bugfixes at all since in the past they only graced their premium models (7d = premium crop, 5d2 = only ff then, 5d3 = premium ff now). People should not buy the 6d in the hope that something will be fixed, it is what it is.

what exactly needs to be "fixed"?

A few refinements to the novel features for a start:
1. GPS auto-off (duh)
2. Wifi settings (still too fiddly to pair it to a device)

I'd also like a little more control of auto-iso when in Manual mode to support exposure comp, and 5-shot AEB for some HDR applications.

Nothing earth-shattering. It's been a great little camera for me in a wide variety of settings so far, and no hiccups to report.
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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2013, 08:01:39 PM »
this is kinda funny chat (got it from nikon site)...

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2013, 08:07:39 PM »
what a silly response.......

I think this is uncalled for, if you don't mind me saying so...

EOS M has had fixes as have many other 'non premium' models...

Yes, but only because the af was practically broken on delivery - I was talking of feature upgrades to stable products or fixes of smaller issues

I think you will find that the  5D mkiii is not their premium FF either!!

It is for most people, the 1d line is another league alltogether

There was a firmware update scheduled for June for the 6D which has been delayed.

Yeah, right, and pigs can fly :->

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 08:29:34 PM »
http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/03/canon-eos-6d-firmware-by-june-cr1/

You seem to be new around here, a [CR1] is a wild guess - and the 6d receiving the af servo indicator even though the 5d3 hasn't gotten it? Now, now ....

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 08:29:34 PM »

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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2013, 08:35:41 PM »
I may be new around here but i know the 5d Mkiii is not Canon's premium FF!!! its for 1DX wannabees!!!
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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 08:45:58 PM »
EOS M has had fixes as have many other 'non premium' models...

Yes, but only because the af was practically broken on delivery - I was talking of feature upgrades to stable products or fixes of smaller issues

The PowerShot S100 got a firmware update to fix minor issues.  Just sayin'...   ;)
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Re: 6D Mark II
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 08:45:58 PM »