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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2013, 03:00:27 AM »
I have to say...  This is one of the smartest discussions I've read on equipment in a while.  God bless....   :D

The 1DX is a damn fine camera.  But for you purposes, it's just not necessary.  It's like having a Ferrari as a daily driver.  Sure it's great.  But wouldn't a small SUV be 10x better except for the bing-quality?

And for a second body...  Unless you're shooting lots of paid gigs.  It's just not necessary.  And when you do a paid gig, it's a hell of a lot cheaper to rent for a few days than have an expensive 2nd body sitting around for a year or two.  Even for $1500, you can rent a camera for THREE months at least.  So figure that...  If your rental fees are approaching the cost of owning, then buying is probably a better deal.  That's what I do with lenses...

And if you must buy something, then maybe a lens?  At least you won't lose money on a quality lens over the short term.
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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2013, 07:56:07 AM »
+1...and when there is almost no light, 35mm Sigma + 85L is also a deadly combo ;)

Nice combo... I usually swap out the 24-70II for the 50L and go low profile with the 135L for a fast-ish tele. I love the AF on the 135 better than my 85L.

I had the 135 and if it had IS would have kept it but felt my 70-200 was a better option. I really hope canon  or sigma launch one soon.
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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2013, 08:18:34 AM »
Get the 16-35 and a 6d

I wouldn't suggest this option for two reasons: the 6d...

* ...has a different usability than your 5d, so blind switching will be difficult (other than 60d & 6d)
* ... af isn't designed for the f2.8 of the 16-35L - esp. with ultra-wide focus & recompose is difficult, and the outer points or the 6d are disappointing even with the 17-40L.

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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2013, 09:33:46 AM »
For me, the option was always the same from the outset.

As much as i love the 1Dx - i would always go with the 2 x 5D III bodies and my reason is simple...

Things can go wrong, and often do at the most inconvenient of times. For me it was a fashion shoot up London with my trusty 5D2 - 29 exposures in the A/F screen lost a lug and fell off. As much as i enjoy the art of working manually - i was unable to perfect the art of using the 5D2 as a pinhole camera for a whole day.  :'(

The AF screen cost £20 to replace - needless to say i bought 2 of them - a short while later when i could afford it, i bought a second 5D2 body. At the time i could have traded the first 5D2 in for a 1D4 or 1Ds3 for not much more than the cost of the 2nd 5D2's  but that redundancy is just toooo important to forego.

For me that is the important thing with photography - redundancy. you've paid all that money for lovely kit, you've learned to use it to extremity and perfected your style. You have a day off work and undertake a shoot - which often costs money - and the whole shoot falls apart 30 minutes in do to a failure of kit - often costing not a lot as well  >:(

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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2013, 09:35:56 AM »
If you want a backup body, and you can afford it, I always suggest the SAME body as your main one.  This way you have one system, and can switch seamlessly.  I used to have 1Dx/1D4 combo, but the systems were different enough that I saved up, sold the 1D4, and got another 1Dx.  It was well worth it because now I can just switch cameras instantly and start shooting. 

For your question, I suggest another 5D3 if you need a 2nd body.  If you don't need the second body really, then I wouldn't spend your hard-earned money. 
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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2013, 11:49:31 AM »
For your question, I suggest another 5D3 if you need a 2nd body.  If you don't need the second body really, then I wouldn't spend your hard-earned money.

+1 - if you're shooting paid gigs, you require a backup body. If you plan to shoot with two bodies at once, obviously you need two.  Else, one may be just fine, buy lenses instead.
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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2013, 03:16:18 PM »
+1. A 5D3 and a nice lens for your second body.
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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2013, 04:40:04 PM »
I am getting my camera (5d3) replaced and have the opportunity to sell the replacement and get factory refurbed 1d x for $3900 or spend $1600 more to have 2 5d3's so I will have a backup. Just not sure if I should jump on the 1d x since I have lived this long with 1 body or get the 2 5d3's. My main want is stop better iso performance, customizable ae adjustments, more accurate metering. Just looking for people who have both to give some insight. I do like the smaller size, silent shutter, lower weight but want a tool thats best for the job. So far events and portraits are all I have done. Also landscapes and macro.

Coming from a two body camera owner....A second body is a second camera...."Backup" helps justify a second though...

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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2013, 05:06:04 PM »
Thanks for all the advice. I was out this weekend and had to rush for some portraits and wished i could just grab another body with say a prime and have been shooting with a standard zoom. Its not an always need but would have been nice. This was not a paid gig. Though lenses woukd be nice I feel like you can are limited with just one body. Does that sound crazy. I really don't need any of my gear but as an enthusiast exploring paid gigs I would like to build up either a second camera or more lenses.
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2013, 06:28:39 PM »
Thanks for all the advice. I was out this weekend and had to rush for some portraits and wished i could just grab another body with say a prime and have been shooting with a standard zoom. Its not an always need but would have been nice. This was not a paid gig. Though lenses woukd be nice I feel like you can are limited with just one body. Does that sound crazy. I really don't need any of my gear but as an enthusiast exploring paid gigs I would like to build up either a second camera or more lenses.

Even as a hobbyist it can make sense. I use my gear mainly for weddings and events but when not on the job, say at the beach... I'd rather switch to a second body with another lens that risk a lens swap with blowing sand.

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Re: 2 5d3's or 1d x
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2013, 06:32:23 PM »
Thanks for all the advice. I was out this weekend and had to rush for some portraits and wished i could just grab another body with say a prime and have been shooting with a standard zoom. Its not an always need but would have been nice. This was not a paid gig. Though lenses woukd be nice I feel like you can are limited with just one body. Does that sound crazy. I really don't need any of my gear but as an enthusiast exploring paid gigs I would like to build up either a second camera or more lenses.

Even as a hobbyist it can make sense. I use my gear mainly for weddings and events but when not on the job, say at the beach... I'd rather switch to a second body with another lens that risk a lens swap with blowing sand.

Yeah that was my point half the time i am changing lenses its a huge risk I could get dust in my camera or drop a lens. I would use my primes more if I could leave my 35/85 attached. The question still is 5d3 or 6d and 16-35
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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2013, 06:53:34 PM »
Thanks for all the advice. I was out this weekend and had to rush for some portraits and wished i could just grab another body with say a prime and have been shooting with a standard zoom. Its not an always need but would have been nice. This was not a paid gig. Though lenses woukd be nice I feel like you can are limited with just one body. Does that sound crazy. I really don't need any of my gear but as an enthusiast exploring paid gigs I would like to build up either a second camera or more lenses.

Even as a hobbyist it can make sense. I use my gear mainly for weddings and events but when not on the job, say at the beach... I'd rather switch to a second body with another lens that risk a lens swap with blowing sand.

Yeah that was my point half the time i am changing lenses its a huge risk I could get dust in my camera or drop a lens. I would use my primes more if I could leave my 35/85 attached. The question still is 5d3 or 6d and 16-35

Still think two of the same bodies is the absolute best... if you can afford it.

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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2013, 07:14:36 PM »
Thanks for all the advice. I was out this weekend and had to rush for some portraits and wished i could just grab another body with say a prime and have been shooting with a standard zoom. Its not an always need but would have been nice. This was not a paid gig. Though lenses woukd be nice I feel like you can are limited with just one body. Does that sound crazy. I really don't need any of my gear but as an enthusiast exploring paid gigs I would like to build up either a second camera or more lenses.

Even as a hobbyist it can make sense. I use my gear mainly for weddings and events but when not on the job, say at the beach... I'd rather switch to a second body with another lens that risk a lens swap with blowing sand.

Yeah that was my point half the time i am changing lenses its a huge risk I could get dust in my camera or drop a lens. I would use my primes more if I could leave my 35/85 attached. The question still is 5d3 or 6d and 16-35

For wedding and normal event, the 24-70 II will take care the wide end. 16-35 is more for landscape. I rather take 14mm prime for this kind of shots. Stay away from 16-35 II for now. Let see what Canon has to offer for UWA zoom ::)
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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2013, 07:17:41 PM »
1 more thought. Any suggestions on a dual body backpack? I use a lowepro 350aw but the pouch on top would just let the 2nd body and lens roll around.
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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2013, 07:34:21 PM »
1 more thought. Any suggestions on a dual body backpack? I use a lowepro 350aw but the pouch on top would just let the 2nd body and lens roll around.


I use the Lowepro Harness and belt rigged for two bodies. Found it to be a perfect fit for my frame ( 6'4" 240). You can go crazy customizing it.

http://www.amazon.com/Lowepro-Technical-Harness-Photographer/dp/B0043D2L9S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1381102479&sr=8-2&keywords=lowepro+harness
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