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Re: Nikon goes Medium Format?
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2013, 08:19:27 PM »
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Something like this might be a real winner especially with the short back plane - could make smaller lenses. The larger the format, the less need there is for a mirror. Even a fixed lens model might find some takers - this could be made even smaller without the removeable back and in lens shutter. All this despite the sarcastic, unhelpful "comment" from LewisShermer.
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« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2013, 06:15:28 AM »
http://p45plus.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54f92ffec88330120a871a1bd970b-popup

Something like this might be a real winner especially with the short back plane - could make smaller lenses. The larger the format, the less need there is for a mirror. Even a fixed lens model might find some takers - this could be made even smaller without the removeable back and in lens shutter. All this despite the sarcastic, unhelpful "comment" from LewisShermer.


It wasn't sarcasm, it was a proper double facepalm moment. one for each of you.
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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2013, 08:25:14 AM »
http://p45plus.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54f92ffec88330120a871a1bd970b-popup

Something like this might be a real winner especially with the short back plane - could make smaller lenses. The larger the format, the less need there is for a mirror. Even a fixed lens model might find some takers - this could be made even smaller without the removeable back and in lens shutter. All this despite the sarcastic, unhelpful "comment" from LewisShermer.


It wasn't sarcasm, it was a proper double facepalm moment. one for each of you.


Regardless of what you think that means - still unhelpful and better kept to yourself.
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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2013, 01:40:52 PM »

It wasn't sarcasm, it was a proper double facepalm moment. one for each of you.

I'm still struggling to find logical reasons that the flappy mirror box is so necessary.

I understand that for someone lugging around multiple bags full of gear the size of the camera isn't a big deal, but if it's unnecessary, and even inferior, why do you still want it?
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« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2013, 03:38:14 PM »

It wasn't sarcasm, it was a proper double facepalm moment. one for each of you.

I'm still struggling to find logical reasons that the flappy mirror box is so necessary.

I understand that for someone lugging around multiple bags full of gear the size of the camera isn't a big deal, but if it's unnecessary, and even inferior, why do you still want it?

We may yet get one from Canon mostly because the mirror is of no value for video work and that seems to be what they are emphasizing now - which would be great for us still photographers, especially if they gave it a really good EVF.

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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2013, 11:51:54 AM »

It wasn't sarcasm, it was a proper double facepalm moment. one for each of you.

I'm still struggling to find logical reasons that the flappy mirror box is so necessary.

I understand that for someone lugging around multiple bags full of gear the size of the camera isn't a big deal, but if it's unnecessary, and even inferior, why do you still want it?

the thing of it is --- EVF tech is still inferior to OVF.  EVF is great for live view nighttime shooting.  But for regular purposes...no way is it ready for full time professional work.  Lots of kinks and bugs to work out
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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2013, 12:57:42 PM »

It wasn't sarcasm, it was a proper double facepalm moment. one for each of you.

I'm still struggling to find logical reasons that the flappy mirror box is so necessary.

I understand that for someone lugging around multiple bags full of gear the size of the camera isn't a big deal, but if it's unnecessary, and even inferior, why do you still want it?

the thing of it is --- EVF tech is still inferior to OVF.  EVF is great for live view nighttime shooting.  But for regular purposes...no way is it ready for full time professional work.  Lots of kinks and bugs to work out

Or you could go large format (8x10) and use the latest NoVF technology..... :)  (NoVF is NO viewfinder)

The optical viewfinder is a mature technology, it is about as good as it is going to get... It has advantages and it has disadvantages. EVF's are still immature. They are steadily getting better and have their own set of advantages and disadvantages. Right now, I'd pick OVF over EVF because the OVF is generally better... but I can see the day coming when the EVF comes out on top.

If we are discussing possible future bodies, as part of that discussion we should assume that this future body will have to decide between future EVF technology and an OVF, not current technology.... and this makes it a much harder decision.
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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2013, 01:46:04 PM »
If Canon goes MF, why do they waste money and capacities for inventing a high-Megapixel-FF-Sensor?

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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2013, 02:17:33 PM »
If Canon goes MF, why do they waste money and capacities for inventing a high-Megapixel-FF-Sensor?

Because they thought they'd out sell Canon. Marketing gamble. Didn't work.

I'm actually really surprised that Nikon went down that route in what is clearly a more 'consumer' rather than 'pro' camera. Think the Nikon marketing boys lost their bonus that year.

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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2013, 06:24:57 PM »
If Canon goes MF, why do they waste money and capacities for inventing a high-Megapixel-FF-Sensor?

In 5 or so years, they will ALL be "big megapixel" cameras...
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Re: Nikon goes Medium Format?
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2013, 01:59:53 PM »
maybe not necessarily MF
but something like crop factor of 0.8 or something would be nice :D

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Re: Nikon goes Medium Format?
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2013, 02:03:58 PM »
maybe not necessarily MF
but something like crop factor of 0.8 or something would be nice :D

Why ?

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« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2013, 02:07:00 PM »
maybe not necessarily MF
but something like crop factor of 0.8 or something would be nice :D

Why ?

I think MF would discourage users due to its size.
FF size camera is perfect and I think you can squeeze in a larger sensor without compromising the size.

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« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2013, 02:07:00 PM »