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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2013, 03:02:41 PM »

Only problem I've had is weight. Sometimes I leave it behind because I have a sore neck. My lens has been 100% reliable, and it's worth the price.

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2013, 03:02:41 PM »

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2013, 03:33:05 PM »
Great Lens.  I bought the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS v1 shortly after I got my first 5DmkII and it was OK.  I bought the v2 a few months after it came out(on a screaming deal @ B&H that I believe was $1700-$1800 w/rebate) and it did not disappoint me.  It actually surprised me how good it was.  It made my v1 look like a dog.  The improved IS is  damn good.  Right out of the box, just testing around the house, I was getting tack sharp images at 200mm/2.8 with shutter speeds of 1/15s and 1/20s with still subjects.   I don't think I've ever used the v1 since then.  It's also probably the most used lens on my C300, too.  And the IS is great when shooting off-the-shoulder with it, as well.

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2013, 04:01:43 PM »
Why do people ignore the 70-200mm f/4 IS? It is stunningly sharp, almost as sharp as the "best" f/2.8s, and a fraction of the weight and price.
It's not as glamorous, but is a killer lens in its own right - Art Wolfe uses it instead of the f/2.8.  I had both for a while but sold my f/4 IS, which had been my favorite lens for many years.  Portability isn't as important to me and the size and weight, while considerable are worth the tradeoff for the ability to shoot at f/2.8, better IS, and tougher build quality. 

If you travel a lot, don't need f/2.8, or shoot fast moving subjects, it would definitely be the better lens, especially for the money.
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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2013, 10:48:47 PM »
Beside weight and price.This is an amazing lens



Great shot! I really like this close-up, but the subject's skin look kinda "plastic", or unnaturally smooth at best. Did you do some heavy photoshopping on this one? if so, it really shows. Otherwise, the rendering seems to indicate that the protagonists have been dipped in resin just prior to the photo session, which would be fine for a Barbie commercial. (sorry if my comment appears sarcastic, that's not the intention, I think this is a great work apart from the skin rendition)

back to the original post: I went through many user's reviews when I had to pick my next telephoto lens, and so far I haven't read anything negative about the 70-200L/2.8 beside its weight. I ultimately went for the 70-300L because of its lower weight (i.e. portability), longer range and better rendering at the longer end than the 70-200L/2.8 with TC. If you don't mind the weight and shorter range and need a shallower DoF, then the 70-200L/2.8 is definitely the sure thing.

Yes,the skin was heavily smoothen via post(NIK)

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2013, 11:21:47 PM »
Beside weight and price.This is an amazing lens



Great shot! I really like this close-up, but the subject's skin look kinda "plastic", or unnaturally smooth at best. Did you do some heavy photoshopping on this one? if so, it really shows. Otherwise, the rendering seems to indicate that the protagonists have been dipped in resin just prior to the photo session, which would be fine for a Barbie commercial. (sorry if my comment appears sarcastic, that's not the intention, I think this is a great work apart from the skin rendition)

back to the original post: I went through many user's reviews when I had to pick my next telephoto lens, and so far I haven't read anything negative about the 70-200L/2.8 beside its weight. I ultimately went for the 70-300L because of its lower weight (i.e. portability), longer range and better rendering at the longer end than the 70-200L/2.8 with TC. If you don't mind the weight and shorter range and need a shallower DoF, then the 70-200L/2.8 is definitely the sure thing.

Yes,the skin was heavily smoothen via post(NIK)

I actually like the look, looks like CGI in a video game. How did you achieve it?

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2013, 11:55:51 PM »
I've had three copies of the lens, all were wonderful.  I returned the first two because of difficulty holding them.  It turned out to be carpal tunnel plus diabetic retinopathy.   After surgery on my hands last October, I bought a refurb on one of the 20% off deals, and have kept it.
I'm sure that there are bad copies out there, I'm also sure that there are some who don't know how to use one.  Regardless, its a good idea to check out a new high priced purchase right away and return it if it doesn't work out.

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2013, 09:59:00 PM »
Here you go:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=2933.0

The IS module is prone to give grinding noise and crap out in 1-2 years.

And call me extremely unlucky, my copy brought from overseas exhibits uneven sharpness/CA across the frame. The right hand side of the frame was blurrier and had more literal CA than the left hand side. The boken is also asymmetrical to the right side. So in essence it is de-centered from factory. Putting it on 1.4x extender gives VERY bad results.

In the end I took apart the lens myself and re-aligned the movable elements. It is in top conditional now and I am happy about it all around.

The rear group is critical to the sharpness of this lens and it is fixed by 3 screws with big screw hole for aligment and a dab of black glue. Not a very robust way to fix a critical group. All the rest of 3 adjustable groups have eccentric screws and can be adjusted precisely.

It took me almost 5 days to position the rear group in a good alignment and once that is done, micro-adjust the other groups and got very sharp image across the frame. Also with 1.4x is it very sharp.

So yes, I have went through horror with this lens but in the end I still like it  :-* :'(
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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2013, 09:59:00 PM »

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2013, 10:09:56 PM »
Pics to show that I am not crazy and I know what I am talking about:



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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2013, 12:00:13 AM »
I love mine to death, but it did give me a scare after about two months of use. I had my IS on during a shoot, dipped my camera down, and then heard a terrible grinding noise. Literally scared the crap out of me. I've had it for almost 8 months  and it's still working fine, but if I happen to move the lens up or down while the IS is on, it sounds like metal on metal for a second or two. I would have sent it off to Canon to get it checked out, but I've heard too many horror stories about lenses being sent to Canon and never working the same way after a repair. The sharpness and contrast is unreal, and I'd rather deal with a little grinding and having the IS crap out on me after 2 years as BozillaNZ said than take a chance of affecting the quality it's currently putting out.

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2013, 12:51:51 AM »
I have nothing bad to say about this lens. It's amazing. But for a horror story(Human error) very shortly after I bought my lens I placed it in my camera bag quickly and the lens cap pushed against the edge too hard and popped off and tapped the lens element. Luckily it didn't scratch the element but the coating has a small pen size dot on it. Doesn't show up in pictures at all so most of my worry is gone. But man my heart dropped thinking "If I scratched this... :-\ >:( :( "

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2013, 01:01:33 AM »
I have nothing bad to say about this lens. It's amazing. But for a horror story(Human error) very shortly after I bought my lens I placed it in my camera bag quickly and the lens cap pushed against the edge too hard and popped off and tapped the lens element. Luckily it didn't scratch the element but the coating has a small pen size dot on it. Doesn't show up in pictures at all so most of my worry is gone. But man my heart dropped thinking "If I scratched this... :-\ >:( :( "

Go get yourself a B+W Nano UV, this lens deserves it.
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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2013, 02:21:02 AM »
Beside weight and price.This is an amazing lens



Great shot! I really like this close-up, but the subject's skin look kinda "plastic", or unnaturally smooth at best. Did you do some heavy photoshopping on this one? if so, it really shows. Otherwise, the rendering seems to indicate that the protagonists have been dipped in resin just prior to the photo session, which would be fine for a Barbie commercial. (sorry if my comment appears sarcastic, that's not the intention, I think this is a great work apart from the skin rendition)

back to the original post: I went through many user's reviews when I had to pick my next telephoto lens, and so far I haven't read anything negative about the 70-200L/2.8 beside its weight. I ultimately went for the 70-300L because of its lower weight (i.e. portability), longer range and better rendering at the longer end than the 70-200L/2.8 with TC. If you don't mind the weight and shorter range and need a shallower DoF, then the 70-200L/2.8 is definitely the sure thing.

Yes,the skin was heavily smoothen via post(NIK)

I actually like the look, looks like CGI in a video game. How did you achieve it?

I light it with 60x60cm softbox and smoothen the skin using Nik colour effect pro.

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2013, 03:26:04 AM »
I have nothing bad to say about this lens. It's amazing. But for a horror story(Human error) very shortly after I bought my lens I placed it in my camera bag quickly and the lens cap pushed against the edge too hard and popped off and tapped the lens element. Luckily it didn't scratch the element but the coating has a small pen size dot on it. Doesn't show up in pictures at all so most of my worry is gone. But man my heart dropped thinking "If I scratched this... :-\ >:( :( "

Canon objective lenses (the front element) are a lot tougher than people give them credit for. Generally they are tougher than any filter placed in front of them. I generally prefer a hood than a filter for protection, filters degrade quality, cause unwanted ghosts and reflections and increase flare. The best protection IMHO is to use a great big plastic wrap around it...ie the supplied hood. It's a pity the current mkII just missed out on the new flourine coatings!

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2013, 03:26:04 AM »

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2013, 04:21:47 AM »
Nice pics lucuias....  :D

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Re: EF 70-200 f/2.8L II Horror Stories
« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2013, 04:26:31 AM »
Why do people ignore the 70-200mm f/4 IS? It is stunningly sharp, almost as sharp as the "best" f/2.8s, and a fraction of the weight and price.

Indeed, and those are the reasons why I own the f4 IS- less bulky and heavy than the 2.8, so good for travel, almost as good or as good optically and a lot less money! I couldn't justify the expense of the 2.8 but the f4 gives me most of the 2.8's performance with the exception of the max. aperture. Having said that, sometimes it would be nice to have the extra reach of the 70-300L in a single lens.
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« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2013, 04:26:31 AM »