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Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« on: October 01, 2013, 03:57:36 PM »
Higher resolution LCD screens

If Canon were to produce an LCD with the same pixel pitch (326 ppi) as the iPhone 4-5S and the 3:2 aspect ratio it would have a resolution of -
3.0":  814 x 542 (1.32 million dot)
3.2":  868 x 579 (1.51 million dot)
3.5":  960 x 640 (1.84 million dot) - same size as iPhone 4/4S

If Canon were to produce an LCD with the same pixel pitch (441 ppi) as the Samsung Galaxy S4 and 3:2 AR it would be -
3.0":  1100 x 733 (2.42 million dot)
3.2":  1174 x 783 (2.76 million dot)
3.5":  1284 x 856 (3.30 million dot)

Better than the current 720 x 480 (1.04 million dot) displays (288 ppi @ 3", 270 ppi @ 3.2"), and could allow Canon to tout the highest resolution LCD on any DSLR (Samsung would still have the biggest, though, with the almost-unusably-large Galaxy series at 4.8").  Does anyone know what type of panel technology is used in current DSLR LCDs (TN, MVA, PVA, IPS, eIPS, etc)?

What are your thoughts?
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Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 04:51:52 PM »
It is funny, I was and am perfectly happy with my 1.8" screen my first canon 350D had so I suppose it depends a bit. I don't think any current DSLR screens are good enough to really use so for me I'd rather have a separate smaller b/w LCD that shows the histogram and a decent 3" screen to look at the rough composition and exposure.

I certainly wouldn't mind having a high res screen but for me it isn't much of a priority. I'd rather they made 24" screens with a better resolution than HD for my desktop

As for panel tech, it certainly isn't TN in a modern DSLR but I suspect IPS

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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 04:54:50 PM »
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This has a about zero influence on why I buy a camera.
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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2013, 05:05:35 PM »
around 1 million pixels is good .. but more is better. :)
i would love to have a higher resolution display.

i always hated the display on my E-PL1. it was one reason i sold it.
i don´t understand why olympus is using such crappy displays on cameras that have no optical VF.

for DSLR it´s not that important but technology improves so why not having the best on a 3000 euro product?

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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2013, 05:20:57 PM »
Higher resolution screen on the back would be nice, but really for a DSLR, it's pretty much "meh". Continuing with a good, reasonably color accurate screen (see Nikon D800 launch screen issues, I think that one was greenish) is more important. No matter what, historgram is a good tool to use to get what the exposure actually is, since the brightness can't easily reflect the actual exposure of the scene.

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Newer core logic (CPU/etc) for the top cameras from both Nikon/Canon. Likely built-in Wifi throughout the line, except for maybe the top model(s) which, due to the all metal bodies, would have issues with it. A small bump in MPx for the top end cameras, although both companies will have a high MPx body somewhere near the top. Canon will continue to ignore small bits of very useful functionality that MagicLantern supports. Maybe 3 points AFMA, for wide to middle to zoom extrapolation for the top end camera. Oh, and Canon will keep the AFMA set ability out of the SDK for the top tier of cameras...still. Despite a bunch of us asking for it so FoCal can work 100% automated.
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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2013, 05:32:19 PM »
Hi, reassigned username from gnd.

I guess what mostly matters is whether a new LCD screen (carried over from mobile phone or something) would be touch-screen so we get rid of the push buttons. With Windows 8 not only the technology is there, this could drop body price as circuitry could be less complicated and button-less moulding/sealing easier.
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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2013, 05:44:25 PM »
Hi, reassigned username from gnd.

I guess what mostly matters is whether a new LCD screen (carried over from mobile phone or something) would be touch-screen so we get rid of the push buttons. With Windows 8 not only the technology is there, this could drop body price as circuitry could be less complicated and button-less moulding/sealing easier.

I tend to disagree. Touch will not work with gloves. Buttons do. Touch and rain is also a bad combination. And the most important argument is that buttons can be used without taking the eye from the viewfinder. Touch would almost be impossible here.
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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2013, 06:08:41 PM »
Here is the punch list for upcoming DSLR's:
 - Awesome IQ/Low Noise in a crop = 7D Mark II
 - WIFI integration with every new prosumer model
 - New Sensors, not repurposed ones
 - EOS Cloud Storage up to X gig with Purchase (sync's card data to cloud when in range of hotspots) or LTE tether
 - 100pt Autofocus which fills the frame
 - Extra long life batteries
 - Builtin Receiver/Transmitter for Strobes and Off Camera Flash
 - OLED Top Menu


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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2013, 06:26:34 PM »
- Builtin Receiver/Transmitter for Strobes and Off Camera Flash

Oh yea, forgot this one. That could certainly be a killer feature combined with a less expensive line of Canon RF speedlites. Or if a 3rd party reverse engineered the spec and came out with a less expensive version of the speedlites. $550 retail is just too much for me to speed on a speedlite if I'm going to get 3-4 for a nice multi-light setup.
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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2013, 07:55:37 PM »
Put 35mm sensor in this chassis ::)

Am I asking too much?
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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2013, 08:03:09 PM »
Higher resolution LCD screens

If Canon were to produce an LCD with the same pixel pitch (326 ppi) as the iPhone 4-5S and the 3:2 aspect ratio it would have a resolution of -
3.0":  814 x 542 (1.32 million dot)
3.2":  868 x 579 (1.51 million dot)
3.5":  960 x 640 (1.84 million dot) - same size as iPhone 4/4S

If Canon were to produce an LCD with the same pixel pitch (441 ppi) as the Samsung Galaxy S4 and 3:2 AR it would be -
3.0":  1100 x 733 (2.42 million dot)
3.2":  1174 x 783 (2.76 million dot)
3.5":  1284 x 856 (3.30 million dot)

Better than the current 720 x 480 (1.04 million dot) displays (288 ppi @ 3", 270 ppi @ 3.2"), and could allow Canon to tout the highest resolution LCD on any DSLR (Samsung would still have the biggest, though, with the almost-unusably-large Galaxy series at 4.8").  Does anyone know what type of panel technology is used in current DSLR LCDs (TN, MVA, PVA, IPS, eIPS, etc)?

What are your thoughts?

Given the tiny size of the display, I see no purpose to increasing the resolution. Especially with pinch-to-zoom in newer Canons, it will give you far more detail information by zooming in than trying to discern something on the tiny screen unzoomed.

A better and welcomed improvement IMO would be using technologies similar to the one in the Lumia 1020 to make the display more readable in sunlight.  Lumia 1020 is easy to see even in bright sunlight, but comparatively the Canon LCDs you can see barely anything (and this has nothing to do with resolution).
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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2013, 08:23:04 PM »
Hi, reassigned username from gnd.

I guess what mostly matters is whether a new LCD screen (carried over from mobile phone or something) would be touch-screen so we get rid of the push buttons. With Windows 8 not only the technology is there, this could drop body price as circuitry could be less complicated and button-less moulding/sealing easier.

I tend to disagree. Touch will not work with gloves. Buttons do. Touch and rain is also a bad combination. And the most important argument is that buttons can be used without taking the eye from the viewfinder. Touch would almost be impossible here.

Probably will be touch...but don't remove any buttons just because it's has touch. And for Pete's sake, let us turn off all touch functionality! Don't just disable it when we hold it up to our eye. Oh, and make that 'tap to take photo' button disabled from the menu! It's far too easy to turn it back on by accidentally hitting the button on the screen. I'm looking at you EOS-M!  >:(
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Re: Prediction for next round of DSLR cameras
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2013, 12:31:02 AM »
I tend to disagree. Touch will not work with gloves. Buttons do. Touch and rain is also a bad combination. And the most important argument is that buttons can be used without taking the eye from the viewfinder. Touch would almost be impossible here.

Also, don't forget that buttons can be pressed in the dark without blowing out your night vision.  Touchscreen interfaces really aren't usable at night, in my experience.

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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2013, 02:24:30 AM »
Touch will not work with gloves. Buttons do.

Some touchscreens work fine with gloves - for instance, the latest touchscreens found on Lumia smartphones work well with gloves, and Nokia advertises this feature.  Canon is not there yet, though.

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2013, 02:24:53 AM »
I would absolutely love it if the new big MP model had a super dense 3.5" flip out screen. I specifically say flip out because I would probably take a lot of macro shots with it, and If it's flip out then everyone can just turn it around if they don't want to accidentally hit it, and it would keep heat generated by the screen away from the sensor.
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2013, 02:24:53 AM »