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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2013, 12:26:04 PM »
I don't know how it came to 1D3... anyway, back to the topic...

We should wait and see what this D610 actually is offering over the D600.

If it's a considerable improvement (of sorts, because the spec sheet is very much the same) then I'd be a bit annoyed as an owner of a D600. Not because this D610 takes anything away from mine, but because I couldn't help thinking that it is what the D600 was supposed to be to begin with.


Otherwise it's a marketing trick to clean up the reputation of the D600. It's disputable to claim that Nikon didn't acknowledge the problem: in fact they did, and anyway we will never know what is the % of affected cameras over the total. As such, the D610 might not be aimed at solving a real problem but only a perceived problem that is keeping buyers on the fence. My D600 never had oil issues and I'm now approaching 5K shots.

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2013, 12:26:04 PM »

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2013, 08:05:12 AM »
Nikon really dropped the ball with the D800 and D600. Canon have really picked up their game with the 1Dx, 5DIII and 6D. The new 610 specs look very much like a feature plugged responce to the 5DIII and 6D.

If it were a response to the 6D, it would have GPS and Wi-Fi.  Unless by that, you mean it's a response to the 6D not flinging oil all over the sensor.  :D

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2013, 09:23:08 AM »
Hi,
Nikon really dropped the ball with the D800 and D600. Canon have really picked up their game with the 1Dx, 5DIII and 6D. The new 610 specs look very much like a feature plugged responce to the 5DIII and 6D.

If it were a response to the 6D, it would have GPS and Wi-Fi.  Unless by that, you mean it's a response to the 6D not flinging oil all over the sensor.  :D
   It's not a response to 6D... we all know it's a response to D600...  :P

   Have a nice day.

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2013, 09:58:44 AM »
Nikon really dropped the ball with the D800 and D600. Canon have really picked up their game with the 1Dx, 5DIII and 6D. The new 610 specs look very much like a feature plugged responce to the 5DIII and 6D.
If it were a response to the 6D, it would have GPS and Wi-Fi.  Unless by that, you mean it's a response to the 6D not flinging oil all over the sensor.  :D
It's not a response to 6D... we all know it's a response to D600...  :P

... as was the 6d, Canon would have never released it without the pressure from Nikon.

We could (or rather not start) to argue Canon vs. Nikon systems and specs vs. reality all day long, but from what I've seen Nikon's updated camera leaves very little to be desired and the trolling level of some of the posts above proves that Canon die hards are at a loss to find any real arguments :-o

RGB metering, silent shutter, 100% viewfinder, 6fps, f8 autofocus, 39 af points, 24mp ff for under $2000, oh my, this is throwing down the gauntlet.
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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2013, 02:08:40 PM »
As someone else mentioned, Nikon should take note of the Canon 5D3 nearly soundless shutter setting.  Very nice indeed.  Nikon should also look at the sensor locations on the D600 and D610 as just taking such a small part of the viewfinder that moving the focus selection just doesn't make that much difference.  I don't own either camera but a good shooting friend lends me his D600 and the location of the sensors is quite noticeable. Look at the D7100 - all the way different.  They did the sensor locations in the viewfinder just right -- almost all the way to the edge. I like the number of sensors on the 5D3 but I get very annoyed at the lack of auto sensor movement when you are trying to move the sensor selection from one side (or top to bottom) to the other.  Nikon does much better in this department.  I think that Canon has so many xxD cameras with so few sensors that this hasn't been a problem before the 5D3 but now with 61 sensors Canon needs to look at the Nikon implementation.

In fact, that is what I'm hoping from both Camera companies.  I hope they look at whatever really works regardless of company and if they can duplicate the functionality or improve it someway without patent infringement, they should.

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2014, 06:13:48 AM »
RGB metering, silent shutter, 100% viewfinder, 6fps, f8 autofocus, 39 af points, 24mp ff for under $2000, oh my, this is throwing down the gauntlet.

True, it seems to be positioned just behind the 5D Mark-III. In South Africa it was launched for R31,000 (body only); which was about $2885, almost as much as the 5D-III which was about R34,000 until the massive new year increases.

The fact that so many perceive it as a "D600 fixed" leaves a bad taste in the mouth. On paper at least they have spec'ed the D610 as a low cost competitor to the 5D Mark-III, but Nikon should really have used the opportunity to improve ergonomics as well. That perhaps could have justified a new product release. As a general purpose camera I can't see myself shooting with it whole day, even my 60D/6D (despite being close in size) are more comfortable to use with my ave average-sized hands. I don't know, perhaps it still sells well in other regions where potential buyers might have smaller hands.
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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2014, 06:36:24 AM »
Nikon really dropped the ball with the D800 and D600. Canon have really picked up their game with the 1Dx, 5DIII and 6D. The new 610 specs look very much like a feature plugged responce to the 5DIII and 6D.
If it were a response to the 6D, it would have GPS and Wi-Fi.  Unless by that, you mean it's a response to the 6D not flinging oil all over the sensor.  :D
It's not a response to 6D... we all know it's a response to D600...  :P

... as was the 6d, Canon would have never released it without the pressure from Nikon.

We could (or rather not start) to argue Canon vs. Nikon systems and specs vs. reality all day long, but from what I've seen Nikon's updated camera leaves very little to be desired and the trolling level of some of the posts above proves that Canon die hards are at a loss to find any real arguments :-o

RGB metering, silent shutter, 100% viewfinder, 6fps, f8 autofocus, 39 af points, 24mp ff for under $2000, oh my, this is throwing down the gauntlet.

I remember reading an interview with Canon's DSLR director from a few years back (he was a newly appointed exec at the time). He talked about the need to unify the 1D series into a single camera and splitting the 5D into two models for two markets. One would be pro-ed up and the other consumered down. So on hind sight, the 1Dx / 5DIII and 6D are the products of his direction as opposed to any marketing / product pressure from Canon. It's quite clear that Nikon tried to splice into Canon's range and not the other way round. So the D700 was sitting in the gap between the 5D and 1Ds III.
lets face it, the 5DIII really is the 3D we all wanted and then some. Sure 35mp would have been nice, but the current camera is easily the most versatile from any camera manufacturer to date and is a PJ / wedding photographer's wet dream. 

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2014, 06:36:24 AM »