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Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« on: October 08, 2013, 10:22:22 AM »
http://www.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/nikon-announces-slightly-improved-d610-1187348

And Calumet just emailed them advertised for Pre-Order.

Seems a bit strange to release a small upgrade just a year on, but sales and feedback must of been pretty bad if they felt the need to do so. But at least they are doing something and churning out decent new cameras very quickly at the moment. Plus not afraid that this may well be open to critism that they themselves are admitting that the D600 was sub par for the market/ at release.
But this is quite refreshing and open.. eh Canon?!!

Could this be the way ahead now to release minor upgrades at say the same initial price point to offer the latest improvements for those wishing to keep on the tech front?

Makes me imagine a 5D 3.1 with a nicer sensor - 1 stop more DR , less banding / noise and maybe 30MP.
And keep everything else with it!

(Then the proper Big MP can still be a separate beast!)

What do you think?, are Nikon on the right road or have they gone nuts and are going for glory or bust with all their recent products that get great reviews but probably don't sell quite the numbers conservative canon does?!!

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Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« on: October 08, 2013, 10:22:22 AM »

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 11:21:30 AM »
By the rumors, it will be an update of emergency to end the stigma of the oil in the mirror and other bug. More or less what Canon meant T4i > T5i. At this time, could make a canon 6D Mark ii with autofocus best off center. In these days, no focus point double crossed F2.8 seems an insult. :(
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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 11:52:38 AM »
"minor update"... wait until this model is shipped out, then i am going to talk about it and hopefully what i guess is right.

here is one of the KEY "shipped date are expected to be around 10/18/2013" if i am correct...

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2013, 12:54:10 PM »
Nikon is trying to stop the bleeding on this one. The 6D is selling quite nicely. Canon has no reason to tweak it. And, by the way, there is a huge difference between adjusting a silent mode and white balance vs. changing out either a sensor or a focusing system.
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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2013, 03:33:28 PM »
Wouldn't it be funny if this just turned out to be Nikon adopting a rapid release cycle format and the shutter is exactly the same?
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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2013, 04:30:40 PM »
the oil issue would have really pi$$ed me off as D600 customer.
and how nikon has handled this was lame.

i hope when canon is in such a situation they do better.


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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2013, 05:33:04 PM »
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The nasty little marketing elves at retailers will try to make hay with this, especially through the "holiday" shopping season.

Personally, it means nothing to me.

And, I'm guessing it goes largely unnoticed at Canon.
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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2013, 06:09:18 PM »
My guess is that Mitsubishi insist Nikon makes more margin per body than Canon needs to. IMO Nikons up to and including prosumer grade are cheaper made than the equivalent Canon. How the tables have turned. Faulty shutter design was a major boo boo. If I'd bought a D600 I'd be hopping mad. 

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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2013, 07:17:21 PM »
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The nasty little marketing elves at retailers will try to make hay with this, especially through the "holiday" shopping season.

Personally, it means nothing to me.

And, I'm guessing it goes largely unnoticed at Canon.
The only hay I'll be making with this is "it's not broken like the old one".
I'd imagine canon are creasing up about it, and I'm a nice little marketing elf, thanks very much

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2013, 08:17:22 PM »
By the rumors, it will be an update of emergency to end the stigma of the oil in the mirror and other bug. More or less what Canon meant T4i > T5i. At this time, could make a canon 6D Mark ii with autofocus best off center. In these days, no focus point double crossed F2.8 seems an insult. :(

A better example of this is that many considered the 1D2n > 1D3 due to autofocus problems in the 1D3. The 1D3 -> 1D4 was much less time than 1D2 -> 1D3.

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2013, 09:11:49 PM »
By the rumors, it will be an update of emergency to end the stigma of the oil in the mirror and other bug. More or less what Canon meant T4i > T5i. At this time, could make a canon 6D Mark ii with autofocus best off center. In these days, no focus point double crossed F2.8 seems an insult. :(

A better example of this is that many considered the 1D2n > 1D3 due to autofocus problems in the 1D3. The 1D3 -> 1D4 was much less time than 1D2 -> 1D3.

Er, I think you need to check your dates.

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2013, 09:17:55 PM »
Makes me imagine a 5D 3.1 with a nicer sensor - 1 stop more DR , less banding / noise and maybe 30MP.
And keep everything else with it!

(Then the proper Big MP can still be a separate beast!)


-What exactly is wrong with the 5DmkIII sensor???????

-The 5DmkIII already captures a comparable scene with about 2/3 stop brighter shadows than Nikon, so you already have the ~1 stop more DR from the get-go. Stop longing for technology that serves limited other purpose than an anticipated ranking from a "pay-for-score" service like DxO. The reality with broad DR is that most people use it to create (read:recover) a shot they could have taken in the first place if they learned how to properly read/adjust exposure.

-Same thing with more MP.. A survey of the some of the largest printing firms in the US indicates that poster size prints represent the smallest percentage of their output - so very few people are printing posters and therefore have little argument for high MP other than hoping to crop a shot they should have properly composed/captured in the field..

Too many 'photographers' today are waiting for a camera with 200mp, full sensor AF, and 204,800ISO so they don't have to do anything but point the camera in the general direction of their subject and then go home and crop/zoom the shot they should have taken in the field - that is not photography, that is surveillance...

(Please understand I am addressing the perspective of your comments because they are ignorantly shared by a large percentage of consumers - I am not attacking you personally  :) )
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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2013, 09:21:29 PM »
Er, I think you need to check your dates.

+1  It's always amusing when people don't check their facts before posting...more so when it's a pattern.

The analogy of the 1DIII is an interesting choice, since Canon recalled them for the AF fix - a very direct way to deal with a known issue, rather than offering a 'upgrade' as a fix.
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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2013, 05:33:08 AM »
The analogy of the 1DIII is an interesting choice, since Canon recalled them for the AF fix - a very direct way to deal with a known issue, rather than offering a 'upgrade' as a fix.

For once, I'm thankful to own Canon equipment, the d600 update is really embarrassing and proves they've got no problem with devaluating their customers' equipment in no time.

Nikon wants to get a foot in the marketplace and has to be innovative and release their newest developments asap. Canon on the other hand is so conservative with lenses and cameras that I am very calm about having bought a 17-40L and 6d1, I don't expect them to release the 6d2 next month with improved af, not unless they've milked every cent from the 6d1 production line.

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Re: Nikon D610 yes D600 minor upgrade!
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2013, 08:02:54 AM »
Er, I think you need to check your dates.
The analogy of the 1DIII is an interesting choice, since Canon recalled them for the AF fix - a very direct way to deal with a known issue, rather than offering a 'upgrade' as a fix.

Agreed.  A recall at least acknowledges the problem and supports your customers by giving them what they should have had in the first place.  Fixing the problem by releasing it as a 'new' model is really insulting your customers that shelled out their hard earned on a faulty product.  It's kinda like saying, 'Hey look we fixed the sensor problem but you're gonna have to pay full price  to get it.  Ohh and good luck selling your old faulty body!'.
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