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Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« on: October 08, 2013, 02:42:28 PM »
There should be a thread for this in the Lens Galleries...

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Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« on: October 08, 2013, 02:42:28 PM »

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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 03:42:19 PM »
Nice shot! I thought of buying this lens, but ended up with the Novoflex bellow instead.
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 05:04:14 PM »
Beautiful Shot, Sir, Dear Teacher, Mr. neuroanatomist

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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2013, 05:42:43 PM »
Very nice pic Neuro. This is one of those lens on my "to buy" list. However, I can imagine I'll have to buy a RRS macro rail, plus macro flash setup, etc, which isn't such a bad thing.... ;)

Out of interest, what was the flash setup for this?
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2013, 08:21:03 PM »
Out of interest, what was the flash setup for this?

Thanks!

This was a simple (read: I was in a hurry because I didn't know how long the mantis would hang around in the yard) setup.  Just the MT-24EX mounted via its included mounting ring, directly on the end of the MP-E 65mm lens.  The shot was handheld. 

I do have an RRS macro rail setup, and for the MT-24EX, I often use a pair of Wimberley F-2 brackets for the heads, which allows more flexibility in positioning the heads.  I also sometimes use a 600EX-RT on an RRS bracket with an extension, to light the background (optically slaved to the MT-24EX as master).

Here's that rig set up with the 100L:

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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 01:44:58 PM »
neuro,
When do you choose to use the 100mm macro and when the MP-E?
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 02:10:20 PM »
When do you choose to use the 100mm macro and when the MP-E?

Based on subject size and desired framing - the 100L if I want up to 1:1 mag (or need more working distance), the MP-E 65 if I want more than 1:1 mag.

In this case, I used both. The mantis was ~3.5" (9 cm) long, so I took wider shots (like this one of him eating a cricket with the 100L, and close-ups with the MP-E 65 (only about 1/3 of him fits in the MP-E frame at 1x, and that lens cannot shoot any wider that 1x mag).
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 02:58:36 PM »
cool shot
looks like a fun lens to play with.
more convenient than reverse mounted lens on bellows.

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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 07:05:55 PM »
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2014, 12:02:45 AM »
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2014, 02:45:48 AM »
There should be a thread for this in the Lens Galleries...


I agree! Nice shot and lighting.

I have only borrowed this lens for one weekend, and I found it quite hard to use. Besides... using my 100L macro is fairly easy, and I can lean on a wall for support. Going into the MP-E 65 requires a substantial investment in additional gear with quality macro rails and flashes, but most of all you need to have time :)
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2014, 09:05:13 AM »

I do have an RRS macro rail setup, and for the MT-24EX, I often use a pair of Wimberley F-2 brackets for the heads, which allows more flexibility in positioning the heads.  I also sometimes use a 600EX-RT on an RRS bracket with an extension, to light the background (optically slaved to the MT-24EX as master).

Here's that rig set up with the 100L:



neuro (or anyone using similar setup),
How about using 3 600RT's with ST-E3-RT i.e. 2 600RTs to replace the MT-24EX heads?
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2014, 09:18:10 AM »
How about using 3 600RT's with ST-E3-RT i.e. 2 600RTs to replace the MT-24EX heads?

Sure, that would work.  The Wimberley F-2 brackets that I'm using to hold the twin flash heads are robust enough to support my 600's.  The downside to using a pair of 600's to replace the MT-24EX is that the former option is much bulkier (and heavier).  The upside is that you'd get rid of the cables.  The extra power really isn't needed that close to the subject.
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2014, 10:55:35 AM »
How about using 3 600RT's with ST-E3-RT i.e. 2 600RTs to replace the MT-24EX heads?

Sure, that would work.  The Wimberley F-2 brackets that I'm using to hold the twin flash heads are robust enough to support my 600's.  The downside to using a pair of 600's to replace the MT-24EX is that the former option is much bulkier (and heavier).  The upside is that you'd get rid of the cables.  The extra power really isn't needed that close to the subject.

That is why I dream of a 430EXIII-RT...
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2014, 11:41:18 AM »
Here's that rig set up with the 100L:



Neuro, great seeing your portable setup (and very nice portrait of the mantis!). A few questions:

1) Do you see any benefits of using the omni-bounce on the MT-24EX? I think it's there in your setup, but I wonder about its effectiveness taking into account the suggested use of the omni-bounce versus the nature of macro lighting.

2) I really like the idea of the extension bracket for background light. Have you experienced any problems with line-of-sight contact getting the flash to fire?

3) I've been tempted by the MP-E 65mm for a while. Do you use the use Canon's hood on it? If so, what's your experience, particularly if attaching the MT-24 EX directly to the lens with the ring adapter?
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Re: Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro
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