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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 02:34:53 AM »
Well, since everyone is ranting about video ... that is probably the main reason I've not updated my cameras with the latest models. I do not need, want nor desire video and the current models hence do not present an upgrade in stills functionality for me. So, Canon, you win some with video and you lose some due to it ... that new Sony A7 looks pretty awesome for stills photography.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 02:34:53 AM »

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2013, 02:35:56 AM »
Dear Canon.

F U and your video orientation.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2013, 02:58:42 AM »
Shooting videos is an actual trend. More and more handycams offer sending these to social media (youtube,...).
Maybe Canon want to meet this trend too.

In my opinion Canon has an burning problem: Every other Camera manufacturer releases new, improved, quite better Cam-sensors than Canon does.
In an German photo-magazine (Color foto) an comparison between the 70D and the Olympus OMD EM1 shows that other manufacturer have quite better sensors than Canon has. Canon has to hurry on, their revolutionary new AF is beaten by some mirrorless cams.

On the other hand, the late release date of the 7D2, combined with an looooooong time between announcement and product release - and even an exclusively right on selling it by professional Canon stores first, could be well thought-out by Canon to maximize their profit too.

But who knows....?
   

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2013, 03:10:53 AM »
CANON PLEASE LISTEN: I DON'T DO VIDEO!!! I'M NOT INTERESTED IN VIDEO!!! I WANT A STILLS OPTIMIZES CAMERA!!!

Good to get it out ...

I want more pixles, improved dynamic range, higher fps, improved AF, improved silent mode, ruggedness and weather sealing, plus a few more. I prefer FF, but could well be interested in a good APS-C or APS-H body. I have a 7D and a 1DIV, but I currently don't use them, because the 1DX and 5DIII is so much better. A 7D-II and/or a 1DV could well change that.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2013, 03:19:46 AM »
We’re also told any follow-up to the EOS 7D will get a new sensor and not use the 20.2mp sensor that is found in the EOS 70D.

The sensor may be different, but the still image quality will be nearly the same, just like the 70D 20 MP sensor vs 700D 18 MP sensor. IOW, zero improvement in dynamic range. ;)

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2013, 03:37:10 AM »
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<p><strong>Canon EOS 7D Mark II<br />

</strong>We’ve heard a bit of talk recently about the follow-up to the EOS 7D. The same sort of time frame is still mentioned, an announcement in Q2 of 2014.</p>
<p>One suggestion is the 7D Mark II will become a bit more video oriented. So beyond a “pro” APS-C camera, it will also be highly desirable for the videographer. The camera as such will also retail well above the EOS 70D.</p>
<p>We’re also told any follow-up to the EOS 7D will get a new sensor and not use the 20.2mp sensor that is found in the EOS 70D.</p>
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The 70D is pretty much the same spec as a 7D mkI with a few tweeks and a few extra bells. The 7D mk II will need a strong progression to hold onto it's premium price point and model placement. I'm asuming the aspiration and promotion of the XXD linage to the current 70D is an indictaor that the 7DII will indeed push the boundaries of the 7D lineage....pro level AF, low iso noise, improved DR, fast frame rate are all needed in this sector. If we look at the 5DIII and it's relation to the 1Dx, the 7DII needs to improve on that basis and progress further, it's a newer model after all!

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2013, 05:04:32 AM »
Q2 of 2014?!  So realistically that'll be Q3 2014 before it ships.  Going to have to buy another MK1 for next year's safari then.  Was hoping to have a new gun with high FPS and low noise to shoot the wildlife, oh well, looks like two older guns will have to do.  Hey ho :(
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2013, 05:53:06 AM »
Q2 of 2014?!  So realistically that'll be Q3 2014 before it ships.  Going to have to buy another MK1 for next year's safari then.  Was hoping to have a new gun with high FPS and low noise to shoot the wildlife, oh well, looks like two older guns will have to do.  Hey ho :(

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2013, 06:06:58 AM »
CANON PLEASE LISTEN: I DON'T DO VIDEO!!! I'M NOT INTERESTED IN VIDEO!!! I WANT A STILLS OPTIMIZES CAMERA!!!

Good to get it out ...

I want more pixles, improved dynamic range, higher fps, improved AF, improved silent mode, ruggedness and weather sealing, plus a few more. I prefer FF, but could well be interested in a good APS-C or APS-H body. I have a 7D and a 1DIV, but I currently don't use them, because the 1DX and 5DIII is so much better. A 7D-II and/or a 1DV could well change that.

Canon wil NOT listen.... except their sales figures are located in the dive. Do not forget: Canon is brand-leader. Why change a winning team?

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2013, 06:29:56 AM »
Good to get it out ...

Just switch to Nikon - it's clear where Canon is going, they haven't got the low iso sensor iq of exmor but are compensating with dual pixel af, live view touch screen & a digic6+ with 1080/60p. And firmware gimmicks of course, my 6D can now play background music to a slideshow :-p

If Magic Lantern adds raw capability on top of that and the 22mp 7d2 has no moire like the 5d3, Canon will gain more video customers than it will loose amateur photogs that want cheap 14fps to machinegun wildlife... the 70d is "good enough" for that. If you want better, spend €15000 for a 1dx + lenses.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2013, 07:04:56 AM »
I've just heard on the grapevine that the next Canon Camcorder to be released will also have a new 45mp FF sensor to take photo's with.... ;)

Seriously though, do people buy a Camcorder to take photo's?! If you want video, buy a camcorder...if you want photos, buy a DSLR. If you want both, buy an iPad or something!

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2013, 07:14:23 AM »
Well, I doubt it will cost $2000.  Probably $1699 tops.   If its more video oriented than it still needs to come with a swivel screen, headphone output, and get rid of the moire/aliasing like the 5D Mark lll did.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2013, 07:19:01 AM »
Well, I doubt it will cost $2000.  Probably $1699 tops.   If its more video oriented than it still needs to come with a swivel screen, headphone output, and get rid of the moire/aliasing like the 5D Mark lll did.
70D is 1099€, I bet the 7D2 ist 2000-2500€

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2013, 07:20:30 AM »
Good to get it out ...

Just switch to Nikon - it's clear where Canon is going, they haven't got the low iso sensor iq of exmor but are compensating with dual pixel af, live view touch screen & a digic6+ with 1080/60p. And firmware gimmicks of course, my 6D can now play background music to a slideshow :-p

If Magic Lantern adds raw capability on top of that and the 22mp 7d2 has no moire like the 5d3, Canon will gain more video customers than it will loose amateur photogs that want cheap 14fps to machinegun wildlife... the 70d is "good enough" for that. If you want better, spend €15000 for a 1dx + lenses.

Canon should ask ML how to make their products better. ML seems to be superior in creating firmwares

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2013, 07:42:40 AM »
Canon should ask ML how to make their products better. ML seems to be superior in creating firmwares

I'm sure the Canon people are also very able, but they only put it to work on the 1d series ... for the cheaper cameras, it's all about stability and recycling the older fw (no updates, no support cost). Plus they are very busy crippling the cameras and adding things like playing music along the slide show :-p

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2013, 07:42:40 AM »