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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2013, 09:20:10 PM »
Get the Mark III, you won`t regret it and don`t even consider the 6D. If you can spare the money, get the 5D3!


I would seriously contest this.  As an owner of both the mk3 and the 6d, how can you honestly tell a 600D user npot to even consider it when you don't even know he he shoots?  If he isn't shooting sports extensively, the 6d is fine.  I can only speak for the still side of things though, don't do video so don't know which is better for what, but, from what I gather from others, unless your doing video professionally, is it really worth it?  The 6d has a pretty kick butt sensor.  When i first got mine I gingerly used it on weddings, relying mostly on the mk3.  But now, I use the 6d without question.  It's rare I find myself in a situation where I absolutely must use the mk3 (ususally only for portraits where the subjects are framed far left or right. 

with apples to apples settings, the differences are pretty much non-existent.  without knowing more about your photography, your needs, the demands you put on your equipment - the 6d is a perfectly viable option
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2013, 09:38:07 PM »
5d mkIII more than what average will ever need.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2013, 09:41:48 PM »
Thoughts on if its even worth thinking about waiting on the Mark IV please!
Crikey! It's the first "should I wait for the 5DIV post". Congratulations.

Take a comfy seat and settle in for a very long wait. The MkIV (if Canon continues with the current 5D Mk xx evolution) will be years away.

Dig deep and go for the 5DIII. This is a no-regrets camera. 

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2013, 11:13:51 PM »
It's the 5D Mark 7 you really want to wait for... I wouldn't shoot anything until you can get a hold of that one.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2013, 11:57:28 PM »
We have absolutely no information about any 5D Mk4 out there. There is not even a hint of a rumor. Weve been getting rumors with details about 7DII for almost a year and its not coming out until possibly late next year. The 5D3 has plenty of life left, especially with the announcement of developments from Magic Lantern, and its possibly the best camera in its price range that I am sure is outselling the Nikon D800 with less issues (check the dissatisfied customers for both cameras on sites like B& H or Amazon). Canon is not going to kill such a good performer thats  still selling very well, neither will it risk bringing a camera with dubious technology to market too early (like a large MP) into the 5D line up, and risk a debacle like the Nikon d600. If you want better youll probably have to go the way of 1DX or that other body that's rumored to supplement the lineup. But to kill such a  well received camera like the 5D3 is not something canon will do - BTW the D800 may have been wining many awards but i suspect that the 5D3 though more expensive is cleaning up the bottom line. So i would guess that you have more than 2 years to wait for a 5D4.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2013, 12:00:34 AM »
You will be blown away by the 5DIII coming from the 600D, and yes, it will probably be 2+ years for the 5DIV.
The 5Div will be introduced at $4000...consider that.  The III is PLENTY of camera...look for sales..you can buy one for $2500 if you keep your eyes open.
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2013, 04:39:22 AM »
- the 6d is a perfectly viable option

But should he not wait for the 6D II ?
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The OP should thank his lucky stars he's not a Nikon shooter. D600, or should I wait for the D610. But soon there will be the D620............

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2013, 05:37:32 AM »
Just get the camera NOW if you want it.  It's just silly to wait for something better.  Because something better is always coming.

I think the Mark IV will be announced next year and released early 2015.  Or MAYBE late 2014.  But really, the MK III is so amazing.  It will take years for you to outgrow it.
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2013, 05:44:21 AM »
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Wait six or eight weeks. When the holiday season sales get going, watch for the best price you can possibly get and buy a 5D3 at that time.
+1 ... I almost forgot that you have something called Black Friday (or something like that) when a lot of neat stuff gets sold off at incredibly low prices ... that's a great time to pick up some of these expensive items.
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2013, 06:27:52 AM »
Big Value via ebay has them now for $2575. Not likely to get better than that any time soon...

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2013, 08:27:33 AM »

In all seriousness though, test drive both the 6D and 5D3 and figure out which one actually fits your needs better as they both have different pros and cons. Either one will be a significant upgrade from your current body and you may find that the 6D is enough to give you what you need + some other features that are not in the 5D.

Re contemplating on waiting for the 5D4.... your time could be much better spent on other things.

+1

I have a 6D, which I'm very happy with. There are a few features I would like from the 5D3, but I wouldn't want the extra weight. That is personal preference, so you may reach a different conclusion.

Also, the price difference between the two would be half way to paying for a 70D, which you could use for video. Of course, that only works if you are content with full frame for stills only, and a crop sensor for video. Alternatively, any money not spent on a depreciating body can always be spent on lenses ;-)

Don't forget, you're not enjoying your investment until you go ahead and buy it. Buying a 5D3 or 6D now will save money compared to their street prices after launch, and even more compared to a 5D4 when that arrives. That may not be soon, if nothing comes out at the Autumn trade shows, then there is no point in waiting.
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2013, 08:34:53 AM »
5d mkIII more than what average will ever need.

'Even' the 5DMkII still fits the bill perfectly for that matter! (discounting AF performance for fast moving subjects).
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2013, 08:57:07 AM »
WHY WAIT!?!?!? That is $900 less than I paid for mine!

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2013, 09:20:08 AM »
5d mkIII more than what average will ever need.

'Even' the 5DMkII still fits the bill perfectly for that matter! (discounting AF performance for fast moving subjects).

The OP is coming from a 600d- so - I don't think the 6d or the 5dmk2 is any worse than the 600d for servo tracking.
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2013, 09:55:38 AM »

In all seriousness though, test drive both the 6D and 5D3 and figure out which one actually fits your needs better as they both have different pros and cons. Either one will be a significant upgrade from your current body and you may find that the 6D is enough to give you what you need + some other features that are not in the 5D.

Re contemplating on waiting for the 5D4.... your time could be much better spent on other things.

+1

I have a 6D, which I'm very happy with. There are a few features I would like from the 5D3, but I wouldn't want the extra weight. That is personal preference, so you may reach a different conclusion.

Also, the price difference between the two would be half way to paying for a 70D, which you could use for video. Of course, that only works if you are content with full frame for stills only, and a crop sensor for video. Alternatively, any money not spent on a depreciating body can always be spent on lenses ;-)

Don't forget, you're not enjoying your investment until you go ahead and buy it. Buying a 5D3 or 6D now will save money compared to their street prices after launch, and even more compared to a 5D4 when that arrives. That may not be soon, if nothing comes out at the Autumn trade shows, then there is no point in waiting.

I agree with both of you here.  Of course if you rent a 5d3 and a 6d, which is the more robust camera with more features...the 5d3.  The question I am wondering though, which all the purists here don't seem to want to ask or care to know --- what is the OP shooting.  He said 50/50 stills and video.  but that's pretty much all.  what kind of stills work?  And what kind of video work?  Demanding professional work?   Semi pro?  Or hobby? 


that's why i bring up the 6d as an option - the 6d IQ is a huge upgrade over the 600d.  Does it have the super AF system, yes.  Which btw, the 5d3 AF is awesome, but, if your shooting landscapes on a tripod and using live view for focus then why spend the extra $1000 on the mk3?  And with the the servo mode, unless your regularly tracking fast moving subjects - like shooting sports or wildlife, having the AF in the bag is nice but is it worth spending the extra $1000 for it?  I shoot weddings and portraits, it's rare that i use the tracking capabilities (I don't need 100 shots of the b&g coming down the isle, using servo mode on that would pretty much be spray and pray).  I also shoot events and live music, and every once in a while you get a metal band and they like to run around the stage - Servo does come in handy then, but even with that said, for the 2 or 3 shows a year this happens, not worth it.  what sells me on the mk3 is that it is more rugged, better weathersealed, and does have some bells and whistles I need. 

With that said though, when I got the 6d, I used it mainly with the wide angle lens, it was the machete, while the mk3 was the scalpel.  Now after a few months using both, I care less about which body I use and more about the lens on each.  I am now favoring the 70-200 on the 6d, and the 24mm 1.4 on the mk3.  I also prefer going macro with the 6d because I don't have a grip on the 6d so i can get lower with it.   where my weddings where once a 70/30 split (70% 5d3, 30% 6d), now it's more like 50/50 between the 2, and yeah, sometimes the 6d ends up pulling the bulk of the load.

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Sync speed has not been an issue.  the 1/4000 limit, every once in a while this is an issue shooting midday if I want to be wide open, but, not so much of an issue that I hate it (ok, if i did not have a mk3 in the bag, this would be a bigger issue).  Lack of a sync port, I thought this would bug me, but now I rather like the idea of having both bodies set differently for receptions - the mk3 can go with off cam flash, the 6d can go on cam flash - this gives me a greater variety of unique looks.   

I do like the weight and the size of the 6d too, it does really help ease the load on a 12 hour day.

None of what is said here is in any way meant to bash the 5d3,  it's a fantastic camera.  Hell, one of the reasons i am using my 6d more now is to put less miles on the 5d3.  What i am saying though is this  - do you need everything the 5d3 brings to the table?  If you were upgrading from a 7d, and use the 7d's AF system to the maximum level, if you shoot sports and wildlife, then yes - the 5d3 is probably the better choice.  But if your not doing that, then, snag a 6d and use the savings to buy a nice lens!   
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
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