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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #75 on: October 27, 2013, 08:33:05 PM »
What more could you want than what the 5D Mark III already offers? One that goes out and takes photos and just brings them back to you while you're drinking your morning coffee?

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #75 on: October 27, 2013, 08:33:05 PM »

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #76 on: October 27, 2013, 09:44:38 PM »
I'd say it's 1 to 1.5 years out.
We better start a new thread on the potential specs of 5D MK IV really soon ;D

i won't be satisfied unless it is over 80MP's with 1342 stops of DR, I also want it to make coffee, and have 2 million AF points....lol
If it goes dual-pixel it might have 20 million autofocus points :)
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #77 on: October 28, 2013, 02:43:57 PM »
My money is on early 2015 (literally, I am saving for the big upgrade as I have 3 EFS lenses to replace).

We should do a poll :-) ... Imho Canon cannot do a 5d3->5d4 (sensor) update which would outperform the 1dx, and I don't see a 1dx2 in 2015.

At the same time unless Canon gets under severe market pressure imho the now collected gimmicks (wifi, gps, touchscreen, dual af sensor for (amateur) video) don't warrant an update a la Nikon d600->d610 yet... the 5d3 is a competent stills camera and a terrific video camera with Magic Lantern raw video, so why rock the boat?

My money is on early 2015 (literally, I am saving for the big upgrade as I have 3 EFS lenses to replace).Incidentally there was a rumour on this site last year that there would not be a 7D2 but a higher specced replacement for the 60D - hasn't that come true??

This rumor was about that there wouldn't be a 7d2 _at_all_ but Canon would re-merge 60d+7d1 into a 50d-like update ... which isn't what happened.

Are you, Chuck and others not forgetting the elephant in the room?  That is, to learn what Canon will do next, just watch what Nikon introduces first.  Didn't the D4 come out before the 1DX, and the 1DX before the 5D3?

The question is, when is the D5 coming out?  2014?  Whenever that happens, 6 months later the 1DX successor will come out, and 6 months after that, the 5D4.  Am I missing something?

Btw, do any of you own, or have owned, the D3s?  I suspect that might be the best performance value in the used pro body market right now (for still images obviously), but I could be wrong.  Perhaps the D3, but its high ISO noise was a tad worse.  Certainly it's the wrong manufacturer with the wrong grip and mount, but otherwise I bet it would be fun to shoot with if I had alien hands and fingers...haha.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #78 on: October 28, 2013, 03:30:57 PM »
Btw, do any of you own, or have owned, the D3s?

I don't think I've ever touched a pro Nikon or Canon 1d body :-p ... probably never been close to one, not even though a shop window - I'm the low budget guy around here, and as long as it doesn't run Magic Lantern it doesn't interest me anyway.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #79 on: October 28, 2013, 03:33:06 PM »
My money is on early 2015 (literally, I am saving for the big upgrade as I have 3 EFS lenses to replace).

We should do a poll :-) ... Imho Canon cannot do a 5d3->5d4 (sensor) update which would outperform the 1dx, and I don't see a 1dx2 in 2015.

At the same time unless Canon gets under severe market pressure imho the now collected gimmicks (wifi, gps, touchscreen, dual af sensor for (amateur) video) don't warrant an update a la Nikon d600->d610 yet... the 5d3 is a competent stills camera and a terrific video camera with Magic Lantern raw video, so why rock the boat?

My money is on early 2015 (literally, I am saving for the big upgrade as I have 3 EFS lenses to replace).Incidentally there was a rumour on this site last year that there would not be a 7D2 but a higher specced replacement for the 60D - hasn't that come true??

This rumor was about that there wouldn't be a 7d2 _at_all_ but Canon would re-merge 60d+7d1 into a 50d-like update ... which isn't what happened.

Are you, Chuck and others not forgetting the elephant in the room?  That is, to learn what Canon will do next, just watch what Nikon introduces first.  Didn't the D4 come out before the 1DX, and the 1DX before the 5D3?

The question is, when is the D5 coming out?  2014?  Whenever that happens, 6 months later the 1DX successor will come out, and 6 months after that, the 5D4.  Am I missing something?

Btw, do any of you own, or have owned, the D3s?  I suspect that might be the best performance value in the used pro body market right now (for still images obviously), but I could be wrong.  Perhaps the D3, but its high ISO noise was a tad worse.  Certainly it's the wrong manufacturer with the wrong grip and mount, but otherwise I bet it would be fun to shoot with if I had alien hands and fingers...haha.

i know a few that rock the d3s ---actually, whenever i see a nikon friend asking for upgrade advice they generally recommend the d700 or the d3s...

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #80 on: October 29, 2013, 01:22:19 AM »
If you play the waiting game, you only hurt yourself. If you like the 5DMkIII, get it now. It might be next year the Mark IV comes out, or it might be years from now, if ever.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #81 on: October 29, 2013, 01:37:36 AM »
Buy a 5D3 now.
1D MKIV, 5DMk III, lot of lenses, flashes etc
Fuji X100s, Sony RX100 III

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #81 on: October 29, 2013, 01:37:36 AM »

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #82 on: October 29, 2013, 04:05:07 AM »
My cousin just sold his 5D3 to adorama, he couldn't be bothered trying to sell it on his own.  A shame, he could have gotten more selling on his own.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #83 on: October 29, 2013, 04:21:40 AM »
If you play the waiting game, you only hurt yourself. If you like the 5DMkIII, get it now.

I don't necessarily agree here because it depends if the person in question already has got another camera and the money saved could be invested in a stellar lens ...

... also with the (underwhelming) 6d available @1500€ the 6d/5d3 price difference could be considered lost if you don't need the fps or af performance. So buying a 6d and then waiting for a 5d4 might also be a sound decision as camera bodies lose their value fastest.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #84 on: October 29, 2013, 04:28:31 AM »
If you play the waiting game, you only hurt yourself. If you like the 5DMkIII, get it now.

I don't necessarily agree here because it depends if the person in question already has got another camera and the money saved could be invested in a stellar lens ...

... also with the (underwhelming) 6d available @1500€ the 6d/5d3 price difference could be considered lost if you don't need the fps or af performance. So buying a 6d and then waiting for a 5d4 might also be a sound decision as camera bodies lose their value fastest.

That's kind of what I did.  It's working fine for me.  I'm waiting on a 1DX mark ii n...s...that can AF with the central group of points at -6 EV, in order to servo track owls by moonlight.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2013, 07:01:26 AM »
Wait for the 5D Mark IV or a higher body.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #86 on: October 29, 2013, 07:46:33 AM »
will a new camera body be able to run magic lantern

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #87 on: October 29, 2013, 08:55:07 AM »
Wait for the 5D Mark 5

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #88 on: October 29, 2013, 09:32:53 AM »
Evolution of camera descision making :

1. Fantastic but too expensive
2. Still fantastic but still too expensive
3. Great but still a bit expensive
4. Nice (but I would like the latest feature of xyz) and affordable
5. Still nice (but I would like many features of xyz and omega) and - by now - reasonable
6. Reasonable but do I really want an 3 year old camera (and the rumor of a new camera)
7. Reasonable but do I really want a 4 year old camera (and the announcement of new camera)
8. Yes, the new one IS FANTASTIC but too expensive...

I would say, 5D mark iii remains VERY reasonable. Once you bought it, keep remembering that you didn't buy the camera as the latest gadget but to take pictures. And like myself, you will probably keep the camera for a few generations of new cameras before taking the next big step.

And of course, money isn't the only reason why you would wait!


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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #89 on: October 29, 2013, 10:17:25 AM »
With the 5D3, the bottleneck preventing production of excellent images is external to the camera.  Generally it resides somewhere between the ears of the user.

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Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« Reply #89 on: October 29, 2013, 10:17:25 AM »