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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #90 on: October 16, 2013, 05:37:06 AM »
I don't see any meaningful differences, if your point is to show that a zoom like the 24-105 performs as well as anything else in normal shooting conditions then you have done so and that's a good point for everyone to keep in mind.

I think it's that simple.

Yes, the 24-105 in normal conditions is a fine lens and can hold its own even when compared to quality primes.
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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #90 on: October 16, 2013, 05:37:06 AM »

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #91 on: October 16, 2013, 05:38:44 AM »
Back and forth like gay marriage.

    Those who like the honda,...24-105 please continue to like it.
Those that like good lenses,....also job well done.

To the dude advocating flare,....Sorry man,...you do not need flare to feel artistic.
In fact,....please try to be artistic without flare.
Exaggerated flare went out of style for at least 2 years now.
Same as making black and white photographs with one element of color in it.
Except for the people in Krakozhia,... everyone knows that by now.
"But did you know the pyramids were actually a mistake?" or,..." Did you know that some owls are not that smart?"

Good luck to all.

My head hurts after reading your post. ???
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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #92 on: October 16, 2013, 05:43:01 AM »
Back and forth like gay marriage.

    Those who like the honda,...24-105 please continue to like it.
Those that like good lenses,....also job well done.

To the dude advocating flare,....Sorry man,...you do not need flare to feel artistic.
In fact,....please try to be artistic without flare.
Exaggerated flare went out of style for at least 2 years now.
Same as making black and white photographs with one element of color in it.
Except for the people in Krakozhia,... everyone knows that by now.
"But did you know the pyramids were actually a mistake?" or,..." Did you know that some owls are not that smart?"

Good luck to all.

My head hurts after reading your post. ???
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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #93 on: October 16, 2013, 01:50:10 PM »
If your head hurts,...go and and get an oil change.
It might run faster.
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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #94 on: October 16, 2013, 02:16:21 PM »
I have the cash to get a 24-70 mkii,  but I don't think I will.   I'm not that fond of the focal length and while I love s sharp lens,  the 24-105 hasbeen more than sufficient for me
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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #95 on: October 16, 2013, 03:16:56 PM »
I have the cash to get a 24-70 mkii,  but I don't think I will.   I'm not that fond of the focal length and while I love s sharp lens,  the 24-105 hasbeen more than sufficient for me

Same here. I have had a 24-105 for many years and used it with a 1D3, 7D and 1Dx. It's not perfect by any means but it's, for me, a great all round lens that I have no intention of selling. I can live with it's minor failings. It's still worth as much on the used market in the UK that I paid for it new which speaks volumes.

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #96 on: October 16, 2013, 03:55:15 PM »
Nice shots of the Vanderbilt house-estate near Asheville, NC...good comparison also.  I'm guessing the frontal shot is cropped a bit?

No, the 100L seems to be longer than the zoom at 100mm, and the zoom is at 96mm, actually.
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So, this thread asks the wrong question.  It's not how bad is it, it's how good is it?

It was a provocative title.  :)

Haha, ok...And you're saying the frontal shot is not cropped?  Was this done with a crop camera?  Seems like if you were on the observation hill with the walkway, at the other end of the "front yard", then the mansion would show smaller in the field of view (at least on a full frame camera at 100mm).  I could be wrong...I've not visited there since I got into digital photography.  Were these shot very recently?

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #96 on: October 16, 2013, 03:55:15 PM »

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #97 on: October 16, 2013, 03:57:53 PM »

I know...I like that look dont you... thats the chaulk bluffs along the owens river in Bishop, CA

Interesting bluffs, they look man-made.  I don't really care for the flare, myself...it's a bit too pronounced, and has the look of it being unintentional...It's not a terrible picture though :P

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #98 on: October 17, 2013, 06:28:24 AM »
24-105 F4 is not bad at all if u match it with a great body like 5dmkIII, i love it... only draw back is the focusing softness issue which can be calibrated... apart of that its a awesome lens ...

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #99 on: October 17, 2013, 09:00:50 AM »
Haha, ok...And you're saying the frontal shot is not cropped?  Was this done with a crop camera?  Seems like if you were on the observation hill with the walkway, at the other end of the "front yard", then the mansion would show smaller in the field of view (at least on a full frame camera at 100mm).  I could be wrong...I've not visited there since I got into digital photography.  Were these shot very recently?

Shot with FF, no cropping at all. 96mm vs. 100mm according to the EXIF. Yes, I was on the observation hill.  Shot a week or so ago.

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #100 on: October 25, 2013, 07:40:05 PM »
Haha, ok...And you're saying the frontal shot is not cropped?  Was this done with a crop camera?  Seems like if you were on the observation hill with the walkway, at the other end of the "front yard", then the mansion would show smaller in the field of view (at least on a full frame camera at 100mm).  I could be wrong...I've not visited there since I got into digital photography.  Were these shot very recently?

Shot with FF, no cropping at all. 96mm vs. 100mm according to the EXIF. Yes, I was on the observation hill.  Shot a week or so ago.

Have you ever stayed at the house?

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #101 on: October 25, 2013, 08:28:27 PM »
I did not even know that one could stay there (or on the estate). I spent one full day there.

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #102 on: October 25, 2013, 08:36:44 PM »
I did not even know that one could stay there (or on the estate). I spent one full day there.

Well, I don't know if you still can, but you could stay as of a couple of years ago.  I've only been there twice, would like to go again.  Btw, on Wednesday we drove over the Cherohala Skyway, was lovely...ice on the fall foliage.  Not as good as snow, but still nice.  Got some quite decent shots, may attempt to sell a few.  Even though the Harley ride was last weekend, there were still a few crazy riders out in the freezing cold...I don't understand them.

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #102 on: October 25, 2013, 08:36:44 PM »

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #103 on: October 26, 2013, 04:13:22 AM »
Even though the Harley ride was last weekend, there were still a few crazy riders out in the freezing cold...I don't understand them.
I never understand them. A 60 year old colleague of mine (who regularly buys some of my camera gear) had a heart attack last year while driving his Harley (luckily survived the fall) ... the doc told him to take it easy but the guy was driving his Harley in less than a month of his stroke ... I keep telling him that I am worried for him coz I might lose a good customer. ;D
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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #104 on: October 26, 2013, 06:52:47 AM »
Going for color today, photographing a gay pride parade.  Held at high noon.  I'm bringing the 24-105mm because it works best in full sun with subjects close or medium distance.  Plus it's focal range is great for such occasions.

Will also bring 70=200mm in case, and for speeches and music on a stage after the parade.

I have a 24-70mm, but because of the expected usual issues with noon sun, and the slightly shorter range, will be leaving it at home.

If the weather were cloudy, I'd probably bring the 24-70mm, as my 24-105mm does not like overcast days.

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Re: How bad is the 24-105?
« Reply #104 on: October 26, 2013, 06:52:47 AM »