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How would yall shoot horse flag racing.
« on: October 15, 2013, 11:25:31 PM »
flag race at westeren horse show

So I got a job shooting this "sport" this weekend.  The weather is supposed to be reasonably nice, partly cloudy.  I'm not 100% sure that what you see in the video is exactly how the event will go down, but I don't think it is far off either. 

My settings and gear will be as follows:  5D mkiii, 70-200mm f/2.8L Is mkii, Canon 1.4 teleconvertor mkii.  Maybe I'll need to the convertor... maybe not...

When I shoot out in the sun and a cloud passes over head, I will shoot in Aperture priority.  Yes... manual... but I really don't pay that much attention to whether the sun is bright or not... so aperture priority it is.  I was also thinking 640 iso and f/4 with the teleconvertor.  The other day when I was shooting football, my shutter speeds ranged from 1/3000 to 1/6000 give of take... so I think that is a good option at the moment.

However... when I shoot football, I can keep my subject in focus using AI Servo and I don't lose them too often.  But when I am shooting a person and a horse, I don't want a shallow depth of field with the horse in focus and the the person blurred.  I'm not sure the Camera will be able to distinguish which subject I want actually in focus.   Per the depth of field calculator, at f/4, 200mm, and 30ft away, I will have 1.61 feet of depth of field.  I'm guessing, but I think I need at least 4 feet of DOF to definitely get both.  If I shoot at f/8 with the 200/30... then I have 3.2 ft... and I think that might be my best bet.  That will probably mean that I will have to kick the iso up to 2500... but maybe it will be sunny-ish... and I won't have to go that high.

I do plan on doing post in LR4, so I can remove the grain... though I am annoyed I have to. 

Now that that is figured out... where do I position myself.  That circle was crazy boring to look at.  I don't want to see the horses ass and the rider going away... so I was thinking of setting up initially to the left of the subject and getting the start, and then the first and 2nd turn... and I know I won't be able to run back to get the final ramming the stick in position... so... yeah.  Where do I settle and move to.  If they were jumping... ok... side and front... but this is going in a circle.

And I was thinking... oh a low angle shot with me laying on the ground might work... but I not head on because all I would see is the horse... maybe at a side angle.  But I think I will just need to get a step stool and shoot at near eye level to get the shot I want.

I also considered doing a 1/30 of a second pan shot so I can get the motion of the legs and hopefully the person nice and sharp...

So if yall have any suggestions, I'm wiling to hear them.  I'd like to do a shallow depth of field... blurring out the background and the patrons... but that would definitely have to be done at a 20ish degree angle.

Any help is much appreciated... even just talking it out will help me feel more confident on what I want to do at the event.
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How would yall shoot horse flag racing.
« on: October 15, 2013, 11:25:31 PM »

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Re: How would yall shoot horse flag racing.
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2013, 09:49:29 AM »
I talked to a friend and she said that she prefers eye  level images...  so I need to add a  step stool and s board so the ferry don't get sick down in the mud/ dirt.
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Re: How would yall shoot horse flag racing.
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2013, 09:49:29 AM »