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A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« on: October 01, 2011, 08:21:45 AM »

What’s coming in 2012

Received some info about a “loose roadmap” for Canon in 2012.


Two things were noted about 2012.



  1. It’s the 25th anniversary of EOS

  2. It’s an Olympic year as well as Euro 2012.


We will see a DSLR that will be showing for CES/PMA in the 2nd week of January 2012. When the announcement for the camera would be was unknown.


A new 1Ds would follow sometime in February.


Photokina would bring about a 5D Mark II replacement as well as a 7D replacement.


Lenses

All that was said is Canon is concerned about getting production up and then they’ll start announcing lenses. The next round of lenses would be “higher end short focal lengths”.


It was also noted that a lot of existing lenses are on the upgrade schedule, though none were listed.


It was stressed that roadmaps are extremely loose within Canon, and stuff is announced when it’s done. It was noted the trade show schedule isn’t as important as it used to be, though they still want to be talked about at both CES and Photokina.


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A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« on: October 01, 2011, 08:21:45 AM »

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2011, 08:32:50 AM »
let say a dslr is announced on the 26th do you think it will be available for xmas?

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2011, 09:09:33 AM »
A 5D Mark III replacement in September 2012!? Glad this is not a CR3 - I think I'd go into hibernation :-)

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2011, 09:31:56 AM »
I Wonder if Canon will wait that long for a 5D release...
If I were canon I would release the 5D asap, the 1D next year before the Olypmics and the 70D at the photokina, and the 7D at Christmas (2012) or later...

The 600D definetley will get a successor in next year and the 60D probably too... So 2012 will be a VERY VERY interesting year for Canon SLRs since we may see releases of Canons complete SLR lineup.

let say a dslr is announced on the 26th do you think it will be available for xmas?

Probably not 2011  ;)


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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2011, 09:37:46 AM »
All that was said is Canon is concerned about getting production up and then they’ll start announcing lenses. The next round of lenses would be “higher end short focal lengths”.

As the 24mm f/1.4 L was upgraded in 2008 & the 14mm f/2.8 L in 2007, I guess this might mean the 35mm f/1.4L, and possibly new 20mm L & 28mm L.

Personally, I'm not going to buy any of those. If Canon upgraded the 35mm f/2 & the 24mm f/2.8, I might very well buy both.

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2011, 10:09:26 AM »
A new 50mm 1,4 (with a real USM) would be quite nice...

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2011, 10:29:19 AM »
No way this is ever going to happen.

Canon will NOT launch 3 pro grade camera's within a years time.
They have never done so and they will never do.

I start to think that Mr Canon Rumors has no idea about how a camera manufacturer works.
Up until now Mr CanonRumors has never had it right until 1 meaby 2 days before anouncement this is very much in contradiction with NikonRumors where things have been leaked out month before.

I sometimes even wonder why I bother to read this anyway... probably just for the funfactor.


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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2011, 10:29:19 AM »

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2011, 11:48:21 AM »
A new 50mm 1,4 (with a real USM) would be quite nice...

+1,000,000!  :D

The 50mm f/1.4 is one the older lenses in Canon's lineup and, yes, the micro USM really needs to go (had mine repaired last summer).  I'm also hoping, as with most of the updated lenses released in the past few years, that it gets a shorter MFD.  The 28mm f/1.8 and 85mm f/1.8 are of similar ages (all three are in the 1992-1995 range), but at least they have ring USM and better build quality.

The 35mm f/1.4L is the most likely candidate, as all of the other sub-telephoto "L" primes have already been replaced/updated.  The long-rumored update to the 24-70mm f/2.8L is another possibility.

As for the non-USM EF lenses (35mm f/2, 24mm f/2.8, etc.), I don't see them getting updated anytime soon.  They certainly don't qualify as “higher end short focal lengths," as the posted rumor states.
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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2011, 12:20:12 PM »
I start to think that Mr Canon Rumors has no idea about how a camera manufacturer works.

That's why it's CR1. :)

I doubt the 7D will get an update UNLESS the 600D replacement has a radical design. In terms of image quality, it still rules over the Sony A77 and Nikon D300s.

Up until now Mr CanonRumors has never had it right until 1 meaby 2 days before anouncement this is very much in contradiction with NikonRumors where things have been leaked out month before.

I sometimes wonder about that too. Does this also mean Canon does a better job in keeping their secrets? :)

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2011, 12:23:14 PM »
Don't forget Canon has a patent for a 14-24 f/2.8 lens too. :)

I am most keen on replacements for the 28 f/1.8 and 50 f/1.4.
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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2011, 12:43:30 PM »
Why would you release it ASAP?  If the camera is still selling well they will not release a new one.  Canon is in the business to make money, and releasing a new product costs lots of money.  Not only that, but it gets cheaper and cheaper the longer you make a product.  You learn how to make them more efficiently and you get lower costs from suppliers.

Believe me, I want a 5Diii as much as anyone, but Canon is not going to release a new one until sales of the current one begin to slip below acceptable levels.

I Wonder if Canon will wait that long for a 5D release...
If I were canon I would release the 5D asap, the 1D next year before the Olypmics and the 70D at the photokina, and the 7D at Christmas (2012) or later...

The 600D definetley will get a successor in next year and the 60D probably too... So 2012 will be a VERY VERY interesting year for Canon SLRs since we may see releases of Canons complete SLR lineup.

let say a dslr is announced on the 26th do you think it will be available for xmas?

Probably not 2011  ;)
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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2011, 01:07:07 PM »
The most logical thing to do is release a 1Ds replacement..  I mean, really.. it's time to retire Digic 3.. It wouldn't make sense to continue it just for the 1DsIII and there has to be a pro camera Digic 5 before they release a 650D with a digic 5..  at least that's what it looks like when you see how they've released their cameras relative to their digic chips..   It would probably kill the 60D (and seriously hurt the 7D) if the 650D is superior in IQ (unless they heavily cripple it).  Or they might release a 650D with a Digic 4...

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2011, 01:15:55 PM »
Hmmm....   Higher end short focal length, that could be zoom or primes, so, by dates

Wishful thinking perhaps, but with the idea of an entry level FF camera body...
1990 - 35mm non L (very old, wild card make f1.8, add USM, make entry level L - £400 ? - 2013 ?)
1992 - 24mm non L (very old, wild card make f2.0, make 24mm entry level L - £400 ? - 2013 ?)
1993 - 50mm non L (very old, wild card add USM, make entry level L - £400 ? - 2013 ? )
- of course the 85mm, 100mm, 135mm & 200mm primes are all getting on a tad and could do with a refresh, perhaps IS on the longer focal lengths ?

Back in reality land....
1998 - 35mm (extremely likely replacement - move to 77mm filter diameter ? - 2012 lens for sure)
2002 - 24-70mm (very likely replacement at the same focal length - IS 25% likely, waterproof perhaps ? - 2012 lens for sure)
2003 - 17-40mm (random idea - 15-40mm, fits with 8-15mm fisheye focal length - 2013/14)
2005 - 24-105mm (quite likely - upgrade to make waterproof ? - 2013/14)
2007 - 16-35mm (possible 14-24mm - 2012 lens probably)
2007 - 14mm (replacement not likely)
2008 - 24mm (replacement not likely)

Whilst not shorter length, the 45mm and 90mm tilt shift lens are also likely at some point in the next few years
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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2011, 01:15:55 PM »

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2011, 01:27:39 PM »
just remember... every updated lens has come out more expensive than its predecessor, so add a $100 or more to any "high end short focal length" lens when you think about it being replaced...

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2011, 01:30:04 PM »
I don't get why you would increase the filter size of the 35L to 77mm...   All the shorter focal range primes are 72mm threads.. 

If you made a 135 f1.8 though.. now that would need a 77mm filter.. mmm

Even though I would love a 5DIII.. the truth is that it really doesn't have a competitor right now, things might change next year with sony being so aggressive, yet it makes sense for a 1Ds4 to be alone for most of the year.

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Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2011, 01:30:04 PM »