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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2013, 04:47:33 PM »
Don't know that I can talk you out of it.  I have one and rather give up my 600mm II than the 300mm II.  It is just a very versatile lens by itself and with both 1.4x and 2x extenders.  If Canon comes out with a 7D II with 1Dx like AF, then it gets even more versatile. 

Here are some samples:

300mm II + 2x III on 1Dx; f/8 ISO 1250:



300mm II + 2x III on 1Dx; f/8 ISO 1600:



300mm II on 5D III; f/2.8 ISO 100:



Let me know what you decide. 
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2013, 04:47:33 PM »

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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2013, 05:26:29 PM »
Can someone talk me out from NOT buying 300mm IS f2.8 II !!!PLEASE!!!

Yes I admit, I have "Red Ring Acquisition Syndrome"

Please show me your BAD photos taken with this lens ;D ;D ;D

Cant help you. Sorry. If you want my advice just get one as soon as you can. It is by far my favorite lens on the 1Dx, often with a converter. What ever they say if you don't say if the converter was on or not they can't tell from looking at the images. Its almost as good on the 5D3 but a bit slower to focus, but its still blimming fast.

According to lightroom about 60 to 70% of my shots with the 1Dx are through this lens. GET ONE NOW, you know you should.  ;D

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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2013, 06:15:31 PM »
Buy it. Its the best of the best in the Canon range. Whatever they do over at Canon, the 300 prime rules over the others. The image quality is nothing short of outstanding including the older models. The latest is light, autofocus is lazer quick, pictures are punchy and contrasty and I can tell whenever I pull up a shot that it was done with the 300. Its damm sharp with both new extenders and soooo versatile. This is how good it is....
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2013, 06:27:26 PM »
buy the new sigma 120-300 instead. it is cheaper with almost as good IQ and AF speed but with the added versatility of a zoom. + you'll save £2300 which you could spend on another red ring or two like 50mm 1.2 & 135 2.0

And of course, you're joking right??

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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2013, 07:05:31 PM »
He must be joking, my arm is still aching since I tried to lift the Sigma, and by all accounts its IQ suffers with extenders. I have taken 1000s of bird photos at 600mm with the 300 II + 2xTC III. But, here is my grandson playing cricket taken with the 300mm II +1.4xTC III on the 5DIII (100% crop). I cannot think of a greater pleasure than the 300mm III, a grandson and cricket.
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2013, 07:05:58 PM »
Sorry, I can't even start to talk you out of it. It is a simply awesome lens at 300mm and f2.8. With the 1.4xTC III it is the second best 400mm available (well, 420mm f/4), very fast focussing and very, very sharp. With the 2xTC III, its IQ is still excellent and it is has snappy focussing on the 5DIII, but slower on the 7D. It is a superb lightweight 600mm. I don't have any bad photos from it attributable to the lens, only me. 

Go forth and buy it! And you too Neuro.

Alan,
What are your thoughts on shooting surfers with 5D III + 300mm f2.8 IS II + 2x TC III or 1.4x TC III? You think the AF will be fast enough?

Thanks
Dylan

I have done a lot of surf shooting with the MkI 300 2.8IS and MkII 2xTC, so a slower AF combo, surfing is an easy AF task, heck I used to shoot it with manual focus FD 300 and 2xTC! You will have no issues, particularly if the sun is out and you have good contrast, very early and very late in the day it can be a little slower.

The newer combo is easily up to the task.

Here is a very strongly back light difficult surf AF situation, even the earlier combo, the 300 f2.8 IS and 2xTC MkII easily tracks focus.

Thanks privatebydesign for the info and photo. Awesome
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2013, 07:09:47 PM »


Dylan

The speed loss with either TC is unnoticeable on a 5D III. And that's probably a good reason to avoid other lenses.

My 5yrs daughter joins indoor swimming team. The longest f2.8 lens I have is 70-200. I feel 300mm will fit my needs most - besides, it's quite less expensive compared to the big brother 400mm.

Thanks
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2013, 07:09:47 PM »

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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2013, 07:13:56 PM »
Don't know that I can talk you out of it.  I have one and rather give up my 600mm II than the 300mm II.  It is just a very versatile lens by itself and with both 1.4x and 2x extenders.  If Canon comes out with a 7D II with 1Dx like AF, then it gets even more versatile. 

Here are some samples:

300mm II + 2x III on 1Dx; f/8 ISO 1250:



300mm II + 2x III on 1Dx; f/8 ISO 1600:



300mm II on 5D III; f/2.8 ISO 100:



Let me know what you decide.


Thanks jasonsim for showing me your "bad photos" ;D

I tried this lens at local camera store twice(without 2x TC III), I love the AF speed.

After seeing your photos, I'm 1-step closer to pull trigger now :P
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2013, 07:17:25 PM »
Buy it. Its the best of the best in the Canon range. Whatever they do over at Canon, the 300 prime rules over the others. The image quality is nothing short of outstanding including the older models. The latest is light, autofocus is lazer quick, pictures are punchy and contrasty and I can tell whenever I pull up a shot that it was done with the 300. Its damm sharp with both new extenders and soooo versatile. This is how good it is....

Photo speaks for itself Mick ;)

YOU ARE NOT HELPING AT ALL...I guess I have to see what Canon or BH has to offer this x-mas.
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2013, 07:19:44 PM »
He must be joking, my arm is still aching since I tried to lift the Sigma, and by all accounts its IQ suffers with extenders. I have taken 1000s of bird photos at 600mm with the 300 II + 2xTC III. But, here is my grandson playing cricket taken with the 300mm II +1.4xTC III on the 5DIII (100% crop). I cannot think of a greater pleasure than the 300mm III, a grandson and cricket.

It looks like my 135L at f2.2

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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2013, 04:25:02 AM »
urrrrgghhhh, this is not helping me NOT buying this lens....  :D great shots and advice....
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2013, 05:32:30 AM »
He must be joking, my arm is still aching since I tried to lift the Sigma, and by all accounts its IQ suffers with extenders. I have taken 1000s of bird photos at 600mm with the 300 II + 2xTC III. But, here is my grandson playing cricket taken with the 300mm II +1.4xTC III on the 5DIII (100% crop). I cannot think of a greater pleasure than the 300mm III, a grandson and cricket.

It looks like my 135L at f2.2

My American express card is burning last couple years with Canon L lenses and 5D III bodies.

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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2013, 07:07:25 AM »
As a bit of a comparison, here's an example with the older 300 f/2.8 L IS, with the 2x Extender MkIII, on the 5D MkIII, at ISO 3200. I would say that this shot is similar in quality to the 100-400 on the 7D at around ISO 800 from experience, but I haven't done any side by side tests. I have to admit to thinking about the updated lens.
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2013, 07:07:25 AM »

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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2013, 07:19:33 AM »
You could save a lot of money and buy a 300mm f2.8 IS, rather than the MkII. The differences are minimal as a bare lens, both are excellent with the 1.4 TC MkIII but the MkI 300 doesn't do so well with a 2X TC MkII, but I never used a MkIII 2X TC on one either. As a 420 f4 via the MkIII 1.4TC it is a superb lens.

I have had the 300 f2.8 IS since it came out and though I liked the idea of the MkII, the IQ differences just didn't add up to the $ differences for me.

If you are interested in using a 2.0x converter then I would not recommend the 300 f2.8 IS I.  It is a spectacular lens at 300 and 420mm, but with a 2.0x it really does a poor job.   Images are soft and AF performance is slow and hunts. 

I just purchased a 300 f2.8 IS II and can say that it is worth every penny for the difference in price.  It is even sharper then the original IS version (tough to believe) and works particularly well with a 1.4 and 2.0x III converters.  Images are just awesome and AF is very fast and accurate.  Plus with 4 stops of IS it really does make this an easily hand-holdable 600mm lens option.  (Shooting with 5DIII)

For comparison, I have owned 600f4 non-is and 500f4 IS. I much prefer the 300f2.8 II with converters to these two lenses in portability and image quality.  It is an unbelievably nice lens and I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for the best IQ for a focal range of 300-600mm.  (Of course the 500 and 600 IS II lenses would be great but at $10.5k to $14k I am not able to afford)
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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2013, 07:35:24 AM »
Sorry... forgot to put up an image for you...  Merlin shot with 5DIII, 300mm f2.8 IS II, 2.0x TC III Converter, Handheld 1/400 sec, f6.3, ISO 1000 during the last minutes of sunset.

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Re: Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II
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