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« Reply #180 on: February 10, 2014, 05:26:46 PM »
Wow isn't the canon o e only 50$ bucks more?

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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #181 on: February 10, 2014, 05:49:55 PM »
Wow isn't the canon o e only 50$ bucks more?

The canon version is $279. Nearly twice the price of the yongnuo version.
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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #182 on: February 10, 2014, 07:26:17 PM »
Yongnuo is now 299

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« Reply #183 on: February 10, 2014, 10:27:53 PM »
Quite strange. If yongnuo really moves to usd 299 they won't be selling many more.
I'd say Time to lean back a bit ... wait and see, how it develops.

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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #184 on: February 10, 2014, 11:16:08 PM »
If you have pre 2012 bodies the YN-E3-RT gives you serious additional functionality over the ST-E3-RT, so much so I believe (and I own both) that it is worth more than the Canon.

But I also believe the current price hike is due to over demand for the first batch, I suspect when they become plentiful again the price will ease.

If you shoot post 2012 bodies the YN is not worth close to the ST, it is not as well made and second curtain sync really isn't an important feature.
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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #185 on: February 11, 2014, 12:34:23 AM »
Quite strange. If yongnuo really moves to usd 299 they won't be selling many more.  I'd say Time to lean back a bit ... wait and see, how it develops.

That's interesting, the information seems to have sunk in that this isn't some 3rd-party cheap rip-off of a quality Canon product, but on par or even better than the original - and of course they could sell it for more $$$, there is no reason a 3rd party product has to be cheaper (Zeiss lenses anyone)?.

I hope Yongnuo quickly forgets about this, or they'll introduce their rt flashes at a likewise high price :-o

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« Reply #186 on: February 11, 2014, 05:18:59 AM »
I see it other way round: no reason why such a trivial electronic device like a radio flash trigger should cost more than 100 Euros retail (including 20% VAT!). No matter whether it has Yongnuo, Canon or Louis Vuitton written all over it.

I see the relative value of the Canon and Yongnuo units at par: while the latter has moe functionality (AF-assist for any camera) and group-function (also for pre-2012 Canon camera models), the Canon thing might not be as easily shut-down by some electronic curveballs coming from Canon in their 2014 camera models. Yes I know, the Yongnuo hat a USB port and can be firmware-upgraded. But still ...

But again ... both of them should not cost any more than 100 Euro or USD ... landed cost.

Personally I am not going to purchase any Canon-RT stuff, before there is an even less expensive RT-Transceiver available from either Canon or Yongnuo or anybody else out there. Then I will get one ST-E3 trigger and 3 transceivers to radio-trigger my existing 580 II and 430 IIs ... and will quickly snatch another 3 used-but-like-new 580 IIs ... before any of you do. :-)

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« Reply #186 on: February 11, 2014, 05:18:59 AM »

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« Reply #187 on: February 11, 2014, 08:16:01 AM »
But again ... both of them should not cost any more than 100 Euro or USD ... landed cost.

It depends on the r&d (or reverse-engineering :-)) cost - but as I already said back when the Canon original was released, as this is just an lcd screen & some electronic parts but *not* a high-voltage flash device even €100 is ridiculously high, make that half that... max.

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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #188 on: February 11, 2014, 08:35:56 AM »
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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #189 on: February 11, 2014, 09:04:22 AM »
I see it other way round: no reason why such a trivial electronic device like a radio flash trigger should cost more than 100 Euros retail (including 20% VAT!). No matter whether it has Yongnuo, Canon or Louis Vuitton written all over it.

I see the relative value of the Canon and Yongnuo units at par: while the latter has moe functionality (AF-assist for any camera) and group-function (also for pre-2012 Canon camera models), the Canon thing might not be as easily shut-down by some electronic curveballs coming from Canon in their 2014 camera models. Yes I know, the Yongnuo hat a USB port and can be firmware-upgraded. But still ...

But again ... both of them should not cost any more than 100 Euro or USD ... landed cost.

Personally I am not going to purchase any Canon-RT stuff, before there is an even less expensive RT-Transceiver available from either Canon or Yongnuo or anybody else out there. Then I will get one ST-E3 trigger and 3 transceivers to radio-trigger my existing 580 II and 430 IIs ... and will quickly snatch another 3 used-but-like-new 580 IIs ... before any of you do. :-)

I think you're going to have a LONG wait on those 580's and 430's....they are only optical and no radio capabilities at all. I don't think canon will have any programs coming soon to retro fit them to be radio capable.

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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #190 on: February 11, 2014, 09:29:05 AM »
I think you're going to have a LONG wait on those 580's and 430's....they are only optical and no radio capabilities at all. I don't think canon will have any programs coming soon to retro fit them to be radio capable.

I know, they are optical. But no need to "retrofit" 'em. All that's needed is a cheap RT-compatible radio-transceiver underneath each 580/430. I believe, we are going to get them soon. Not from Canon of course ...but some Chinese will be clever enough to build and sell a couple million of those and make a fortune ... at USD 49,- a piece.  :-)

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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #191 on: February 11, 2014, 09:49:15 AM »
Not from Canon of course ...but some Chinese will be clever enough to build and sell a couple million of those and make a fortune ... at USD 49,- a piece.  :-)


Some Chinese first have to reverse engineer the protocol, and Yongnuo won't share - so this leaves Yongnuo themselves, and they'll be even cleverer and sell rt-integrated flashes and studio gear for much more than $49 :-p

Btw I don't know what the fuzz is about, the price hasn't changed (still $150): http://en.yongnuo.com.cn/goods-233-Yongnuo+Speedlite+transmitter+YN-E3-RT.html
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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #192 on: February 11, 2014, 10:07:08 AM »
Not from Canon of course ...but some Chinese will be clever enough to build and sell a couple million of those and make a fortune ... at USD 49,- a piece.  :-)

Some Chinese first have to reverse engineer the protocol, and Yongnuo won't share - so this leaves Yongnuo themselves, and they'll be even cleverer and sell rt-integrated flashes and studio gear for much more than $49 :-p

we'll see ... quickest and easiest buck to be made are those transceivers. They'd sell by themselves ... even at USD 99 a piece. :-)

And it would not keep Yongnuo from additionally selling YN-600EX-RT plus YN-430EX-RT plus a series of studio strobes with integrated RT-transceivers.  For all those who either have no 580/430ies or prefer to have flashlites/strobes without having to fiddle around with separate transceivers and separate batteries. :-)

A complete RT system still has the follwing components:
1) ST-E3-RT trigger
2) large RT speedlite - 600EX-RT
3) smaller RT speedlite - "430EX-RT" (possibly slave only)
4) RT-transceiver
5) series of 3 or 4 Wh sRT-studio strobes

Since the components compliment each other - depending on individually needed/desired setup(s) - offering a complete system and leaving customers a choice would provide significantly higher sales revenues and total profit compared to only offering components 1 and 2. It appears Canon wants to learn this the hard way.  ;D

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« Reply #192 on: February 11, 2014, 10:07:08 AM »

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Re: Yongnuo's 600-exrt compatinle transmitter!
« Reply #193 on: February 11, 2014, 10:17:45 AM »
we'll see ... quickest and easiest buck to be made are those transceivers. They'd sell by themselves ... even at USD 99 a piece. :-)

Indeed we will :-p ... I'd bet that they position their rt system as a premium system vs. their cheaper proprietary, and keep selling dedicated triggers only for the latter. If any, they'll design rt triggers only quite some time after introduction of their own rt flashes.

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« Reply #194 on: February 11, 2014, 10:27:56 AM »
$299? Yikes! Got mine for 150 just 2 weeks ago.
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