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Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« on: October 22, 2013, 01:11:47 PM »

Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body? Is it worthwhile to just get a taste of full frame goodness? In my market (Twin Cities) I've noticed these tools showing up weekly on Craigslist...this one in particular is selling for $250...

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/pho/4095972932.html 

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Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« on: October 22, 2013, 01:11:47 PM »

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2013, 01:19:27 PM »

Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body? Is it worthwhile to just get a taste of full frame goodness? In my market (Twin Cities) I've noticed these tools showing up weekly on Craigslist...this one in particular is selling for $250...

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/pho/4095972932.html

12MP is very limiting.  If I had to buy a 12MP body I would rather try a D700, but maybe that's just me.  Of course those aren't very inexpensive on the used market, so I guess that's not a very good suggestion for your price range.  I do think the D700 had better image quality and a better AF than the 5D.  Seems like you could buy a 5D and try it a while.  If you don't like it, sell it and not lose any money.  My cousin owned a 5D back in the day, but I don't recall trying it for myself.  He took a lot of bird images with his 600 f/4, and they were fantastic.  Sorry I can't be of more help!

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2013, 01:29:59 PM »
5D classic image is good enough ONLY IF you hit and exact exposure. However, when it is necessary to lift the shadows in post-processing, noise appears very ugly. :( I'm not talking about unusual things. If you lift the shadows only 1 point, already sees colored noise horrendous. This was a good camera when it was released, but the noise and autofocus faltering are no match for the new 70D.

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2013, 01:30:40 PM »
I have 7d as main body and got a 5d for landscapes and backup body. Nothing wrong with it. If you have full frame lenses its a good thing to have if you have mainly EF-S crop lenses then you are limited in its use.

For that money its worth a gamble.
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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2013, 01:33:56 PM »
12MP is very limiting.  If I had to buy a 12MP body I would rather try a D700, but maybe that's just me.

No, good advice, the Nikkor 58mm 1.4 is even more incentive to cross over.

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2013, 01:36:36 PM »
5D classic image is good enough ONLY IF you hit and exact exposure. However, when it is necessary to lift the shadows in post-processing, noise appears very ugly. :( I'm not talking about unusual things. If you lift the shadows only 1 point, already sees colored noise horrendous. This was a good camera when it was released, but the noise and autofocus faltering are no match for the new 70D.

Currently I'm pushing my 60D to the edge, after getting deeper into my photography I'm noticing banding (with blacks) at low ISOs (100-200), I was hoping that was not an issue with the 5D, I definitely need to reconsider.

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2013, 01:38:39 PM »
I have 7d as main body and got a 5d for landscapes and backup body. Nothing wrong with it. If you have full frame lenses its a good thing to have if you have mainly EF-S crop lenses then you are limited in its use.

For that money its worth a gamble.

OK - Already own L glass (16-35II, 135, 70-300, and 50mm 1.2) - ever use the 5d for portraits? did it yield positive results? What I've seen on the FLICKR pools have not been very flattering.

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2013, 01:38:39 PM »

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2013, 01:41:58 PM »
At $250 you're crazy for passing it up.  They typically go for $500-700 nowadays.  At the least you could make some money in a flip if it is still in good, working condition.
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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2013, 01:52:49 PM »
At $250 you're crazy for passing it up.  They typically go for $500-700 nowadays.  At the least you could make some money in a flip if it is still in good, working condition.

You got a good point

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2013, 02:19:28 PM »
5D classic image is good enough ONLY IF you hit and exact exposure. However, when it is necessary to lift the shadows in post-processing, noise appears very ugly. :( I'm not talking about unusual things. If you lift the shadows only 1 point, already sees colored noise horrendous. This was a good camera when it was released, but the noise and autofocus faltering are no match for the new 70D.

Probably half our pictures at Building Panoramics have been taken on a 5D mki and we have never had a problem lifting shadows from anything that was remotely correct in exposure.

Correct on the AF though; the lack of AFMA on the mki can be a drawback depending on body AF calibration, lenses, DoF etc.

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2013, 02:27:54 PM »
Guys, come on!!!
The 5D without mark is an excellent camera. Sure, newer cameras have more megapixels, but the 13MP do deliver excellent image quality. (Don't judge it on the display, though, 'cos this is horrible. Judge it on PC screen.) Dynamic Range is very good as well.
I regularly do prints in 50x70cm and they come out very nicely.

High ISO is still better than on any APS-C, for sure. No banding until ISO 1600, perhaps a bit at ISO H (=3200).

Prepare for a decent amount of sensor cleaning, however.

I'm confident the 5D it will become your first body and the 60D your spare second one. ;-)
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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2013, 02:29:38 PM »
If you've already got CF cards, just get the frecking thing. I can't even buy a 85mm 1.8 for 250 frecking dollars in my area.
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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2013, 02:45:04 PM »
Guys, come on!!!
The 5D without mark is an excellent camera. Sure, newer cameras have more megapixels, but the 13MP do deliver excellent image quality. (Don't judge it on the display, though, 'cos this is horrible. Judge it on PC screen.) Dynamic Range is very good as well.
I regularly do prints in 50x70cm and they come out very nicely.

High ISO is still better than on any APS-C, for sure. No banding until ISO 1600, perhaps a bit at ISO H (=3200).

Prepare for a decent amount of sensor cleaning, however.

I'm confident the 5D it will become your first body and the 60D your spare second one. ;-)

I agree with all of this.

I have never owned or even used the 7D - so, maybe that would produce better images - and more often - not sure.

But I have used practically all the other Rebels and xxD Canons (including the 60D) and I very much still prefer the images from my old 5Dc (which I still use as a backup to the 5DIII).

The Sl-1, however, is growing on me as an alternate.

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2013, 02:45:04 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2013, 05:03:10 PM »
I've owned a 5D, and it was better than any of my crop cameras, including the two 7D's.
The 7D does have more FPS, but less accurate AF.

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Re: Any fellow croppers get a cheap 5D (CLASSIC) as a second body?
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2013, 05:24:04 PM »

The 7D does have more FPS, but less accurate AF.

Really ? Less accurate than the 5D ? I thought the only thing that has less accurate AF than a 5D was an F-1

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2013, 05:24:04 PM »