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Re: Sony A7 photo sample - share Sony A7 series photos here
« Reply #60 on: December 10, 2013, 12:14:49 PM »
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" It doesn't seem too long ago I was changing rolls of film every 36 exposures or less. Now some are peeved at only getting 300 shots before changing a battery" ... how true ... the digital age has spoiled us. :-[

True, but we don't have to wait hours to "charge" rolls of film either.   ::)

It reminds me of my first digital camera, a Nikon coolpix 990.  It chewed through 4 AAs in about 30-50 shots.  Horrid.  And the NiMH batteries of the day did not keep their charge for long.  Getting a 20D, whose battery lasted hundreds of shots, was a revelation.

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« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2013, 02:48:52 PM »
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" It doesn't seem too long ago I was changing rolls of film every 36 exposures or less. Now some are peeved at only getting 300 shots before changing a battery" ... how true ... the digital age has spoiled us. :-[

True, but we don't have to wait hours to "charge" rolls of film either.   ::)

It reminds me of my first digital camera, a Nikon coolpix 990.  It chewed through 4 AAs in about 30-50 shots.  Horrid.  And the NiMH batteries of the day did not keep their charge for long.  Getting a 20D, whose battery lasted hundreds of shots, was a revelation.

NiMH batteries STILL don't hold their charge for very long, especially compared to lithium ones, even if those lithium are 2/3 the physical size!  In my opinion the very best battery there is, is the 18650, rechargeable lithium.  The 1DX's pack uses 3 of these cells.  They're very light for their size, and last forever, especially in an LED flashlight.

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Re: Sony A7 photo sample - share Sony A7 series photos here
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2013, 09:30:47 AM »
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" It doesn't seem too long ago I was changing rolls of film every 36 exposures or less. Now some are peeved at only getting 300 shots before changing a battery" ... how true ... the digital age has spoiled us. :-[

True, but we don't have to wait hours to "charge" rolls of film either.   ::)
Not too bad if you put it for charging before going to bed ... digital photography is a hell of a lot more convenient than film.
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Re: Sony A7 photo sample - share Sony A7 series photos here
« Reply #63 on: December 11, 2013, 10:04:22 AM »

No one thinks that the a7's are going to kill DSLR. However, as I've recently read in a review, the a7's Mk II could. It's impossible not to see the potential, when you consider that they are a world first vs a decades-old, mature, established tech. Possibly surpassed tech? Time will tell.

They have class leading sensors, good tech inside, excellent (though momentarily few and a tad pricey) Zeiss branded AF lenses, and they can take pretty much any lens ever made. And they're small like a MFT camera - something that people like me, who take lots of planes, will be thankful for.


Good thoughts. I just recently found out these cameras existed and my initial thought was, holy crap this could actually replace a DSLR for most of my purposes. Reading reviews it seems they're not all the way there in some areas - AF sensitivity, handling, shutter blackout, battery life, lack of lens selection all seem like little annoyances that would add up. That doesn't mean that the next generation of these cameras won't address those concerns. Sony needs to stick with this platform, listen to users and develop it. Should be a real winner.

One other note on the A7 - I only handled one for a few minutes at B&H, but I have to say my little EOS M feels more rock solid than the A7. I'm sure it's built well but it just doesn't FEEL built well, if that makes sense.

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Re: Sony A7 photo sample - share Sony A7 series photos here
« Reply #64 on: December 11, 2013, 10:31:27 AM »
Reading reviews it seems they're not all the way there in some areas - AF sensitivity, handling, shutter blackout, battery life, lack of lens selection all seem like little annoyances that would add up.
I have the Sony a7 and this is my observation:
"AF sensitivity": Excellent ... if its the a7 (I'm told the a7r is not as good, but I've never tried it)
"Handling": Very Good
"Shutter blackout": Yes, it blacks out for a good part of a second after each shot.
"Battery life": Sucks cow n!pples ... lack of a charger sucks ever more.
"Lack of Lens selection": Yes, for the time being ... but if Sony delivers on their promise, we could see a good selection of lenses within 2 years.

One other note on the A7 - I only handled one for a few minutes at B&H, but I have to say my little EOS M feels more rock solid than the A7. I'm sure it's built well but it just doesn't FEEL built well, if that makes sense.
You are absolutely right, I have the EOS-M and it is built rock solid ... the a7 is highly unlikely to survive a fall that an EOS-M can survive. Just yesterday, I got the Sony HVL-F43M flash and it hotshoe foot is made of very thin plastic, which can easily be ripped off with very little effort (it is probably the worst flash foot I've ever seen ... even my cheap $62 Sunpak RD2000 has stronger/thicker plastic feet that can outlive the Sony HVL-F43M). God forbid, but if my a7 along with the HVL-F43M falls even from 3 feet height on a hard surface, the damage could be severe. But I hear the a7r is very robust with better build quality.
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Re: Sony A7 photo sample - share Sony A7 series photos here
« Reply #65 on: December 11, 2013, 12:57:37 PM »
Reading reviews it seems they're not all the way there in some areas - AF sensitivity, handling, shutter blackout, battery life, lack of lens selection all seem like little annoyances that would add up.
I have the Sony a7 and this is my observation:
"AF sensitivity": Excellent ... if its the a7 (I'm told the a7r is not as good, but I've never tried it)
"Handling": Very Good
"Shutter blackout": Yes, it blacks out for a good part of a second after each shot.
"Battery life": Sucks cow n!pples ... lack of a charger sucks ever more.
"Lack of Lens selection": Yes, for the time being ... but if Sony delivers on their promise, we could see a good selection of lenses within 2 years.


Thanks for all that. Regarding AF sensitivity I've read that in low light it's a couple stops (for lack of correct words, perhaps) less sensitive than the 6D and even the 5DIII. Have you put it through it's paces in dim lighting?

Also seems to me many of the complaints out there could be fixed in firmware.

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Re: Sony A7 photo sample - share Sony A7 series photos here
« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2013, 01:55:20 PM »
Reading reviews it seems they're not all the way there in some areas - AF sensitivity, handling, shutter blackout, battery life, lack of lens selection all seem like little annoyances that would add up.
I have the Sony a7 and this is my observation:
"AF sensitivity": Excellent ... if its the a7 (I'm told the a7r is not as good, but I've never tried it)
"Handling": Very Good
"Shutter blackout": Yes, it blacks out for a good part of a second after each shot.
"Battery life": Sucks cow n!pples ... lack of a charger sucks ever more.
"Lack of Lens selection": Yes, for the time being ... but if Sony delivers on their promise, we could see a good selection of lenses within 2 years.


Thanks for all that. Regarding AF sensitivity I've read that in low light it's a couple stops (for lack of correct words, perhaps) less sensitive than the 6D and even the 5DIII. Have you put it through it's paces in dim lighting?

Also seems to me many of the complaints out there could be fixed in firmware.
I did not use it in dim light before, but after having read your post I just compared it with the following combination:
5D MK III + 24-70 f/2.8 VC
5D MK III + 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II
The Sony a7 + 28-70mm lens was faster to AF in extremely dim light ONLY if the AF Illuminator was on ... but when the AF Illuminator is turned off, the a7 is slower than the 5D MK III + the above-mentioned lenses, to me the a7 (with AF Illuminator is turned off) seemed half as slow as my 5D MK III ... but with the AF Illuminator on, the a7 definitely has the edge.
 
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« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2013, 01:55:20 PM »

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« Reply #67 on: December 12, 2013, 04:33:26 AM »
OK, I've been cribbing quite a bit about this camera, so let me at least post a photo ... unfortunately, the weather here still sucks with dust all around ... so this is the best I can get at the moment ... image taken through a double glassed office room looking into the main road. This image is especially for Surapon as we once had a discussion about pink cars  ;D ... sorry Surapon, my photos are not as nice as your photos ... in my defense, I blame the bad weather, but give me one or 2 weeks and I'll post some nice photos of Australia ... till then enjoy the pink car without Elvis :D this was a quick image made with Sony a7+28-70
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Re: Sony A7 photo sample - share Sony A7 series photos here
« Reply #68 on: December 12, 2013, 08:17:49 AM »
OK, I've been cribbing quite a bit about this camera, so let me at least post a photo ... unfortunately, the weather here still sucks with dust all around ... so this is the best I can get at the moment ... image taken through a double glassed office room looking into the main road. This image is especially for Surapon as we once had a discussion about pink cars  ;D ... sorry Surapon, my photos are not as nice as your photos ... in my defense, I blame the bad weather, but give me one or 2 weeks and I'll post some nice photos of Australia ... till then enjoy the pink car without Elvis :D this was a quick image made with Sony a7+28-70

Ha, Ha, Ha---Deasr Rienz.
At least, Some one still love Pink car, After Elvis move to live in Hawaii , and Change his name. No That Pink car is too small for Big size Elvis now, It must to be Cadillac only.
Thanks again my friend.
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« Reply #69 on: December 13, 2013, 12:21:07 AM »
OK, I've been cribbing quite a bit about this camera, so let me at least post a photo ... unfortunately, the weather here still sucks with dust all around ... so this is the best I can get at the moment ... image taken through a double glassed office room looking into the main road. This image is especially for Surapon as we once had a discussion about pink cars  ;D ... sorry Surapon, my photos are not as nice as your photos ... in my defense, I blame the bad weather, but give me one or 2 weeks and I'll post some nice photos of Australia ... till then enjoy the pink car without Elvis :D this was a quick image made with Sony a7+28-70

Ha, Ha, Ha---Deasr Rienz.
At least, Some one still love Pink car, After Elvis move to live in Hawaii , and Change his name. No That Pink car is too small for Big size Elvis now, It must to be Cadillac only.
Thanks again my friend.
Surapon
OK Sir, from now on, I will keep an eye only for Pink Cadillic, we don't want large Elvis to have trouble squeezing into small pink cars  ;D ... spotting a pink Cadillac might be difficult, but not impossible in Qatar. However, the challenge would be to have my Sony a7 at hand, when I spot a Pink Cadillac, so I can post it here. :)
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« Reply #70 on: December 14, 2013, 02:39:14 PM »
Finally the dusty weather cleared a little bit ... made some images when out for shopping with the wife (sneaked outside the mall to quickly put the Sony a7 to test) ... here are a few Sony a7 ISO 6400 images ... focal length of all the images is 28mm
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« Reply #71 on: December 14, 2013, 02:44:05 PM »
a few more ISO 6400 samples
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« Reply #72 on: December 15, 2013, 07:03:07 AM »
Finally the dusty weather cleared a little bit ... made some images when out for shopping with the wife (sneaked outside the mall to quickly put the Sony a7 to test) ... here are a few Sony a7 ISO 6400 images ... focal length of all the images is 28mm

Were these shot as jpegs?  I see a block noise pattern than looks like jpeg compression.  If so, then it also must be using in-camera noise reduction...anyway that's my guess...having never compared images from that camera before.  Not bad results, decent colors too!

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« Reply #73 on: December 15, 2013, 09:21:29 AM »
Finally the dusty weather cleared a little bit ... made some images when out for shopping with the wife (sneaked outside the mall to quickly put the Sony a7 to test) ... here are a few Sony a7 ISO 6400 images ... focal length of all the images is 28mm

Were these shot as jpegs?  I see a block noise pattern than looks like jpeg compression.  If so, then it also must be using in-camera noise reduction...anyway that's my guess...having never compared images from that camera before.  Not bad results, decent colors too!
Hi Carl,

Yes they are jpegs ... except for the first image (with the aeroplane flying by) all other images are out-of-the-camera ... I deliberately underexposed the first image, to pull shadows and blacks (+100) in Lightroom 5.3 just to see how far I could push the limits. Unfortunately, I did not shoot RAW, as I had given the camera to my wife for a few candid shots, so I had changed it to jpeg and put it in Auto mode for her and when I "escaped" from the mall, I had to rush back (lest I face the wife's wrath for ditching her while shopping), so I had just a few minutes ... in the hurry, I forgot to change to to RAW. But I plan on putting it to its paces, in a few days time, when I'm off for a long awaited vacation. 8) 
I was planning on making some more images with the a7 at the beach today, but the weather has gone from bad to worse, with heavy winds and $h!t loads of dust. >:(
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« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2013, 12:00:14 PM »
Nasim Mansurov over at the Photography Life website did an ISO comparison with the Sony A7R v. Nikon D800E:

http://photographylife.com/sony-a7r-vs-nikon-d800e-iso-comparison

and the Sony A7 v. Nikon D600

http://photographylife.com/sony-a7-vs-nikon-d600-iso-performance

He had to use the kit lens on the Sony cameras, so it's hard to say if the Nikon sensors are better, but Nikon has slightly better results in his comparison.
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