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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2013, 03:30:49 PM »
My wife and I have two little boys and baby #3 is cooking (due Jan). We also handle birth photography as part of our photography business. I love using our 35 on a crop. For us, the 35 is a wonderful balance for the depth of field we are looking for in addition to the framing we are wanting.

My 2c; I would recommend a 35.

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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2013, 03:30:49 PM »

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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2013, 04:56:27 PM »
I have found that my Canon 28mm F2.8 performs pretty well on crop sensors and is cheap + cheerful. I do prefer my 25mm F2.8 Contax-Zeiss (with a 10 GBP adapter) is better but it's entirely manual - does not suit everybody.

Unless I had bad copy, most photos I took with 28mm were soft-soft-and more soft.

@ OP,  Canon Ef-S 17-55 IS 2.8 is one of the best lens for crop. It's little over your budget. I hope you can find a decent used lens on CL.

Mine is quite good, especially considering it's price. No it does not compare to my L glass but mine is a perfectly usable lens - especially on a crop.
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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2013, 05:29:55 PM »
I shot with 35mm during the birth of my daughter last year and it worked out well. If your budget permits, I would say go with the 35/2 IS if you could find one used. If not, they were down to $549 new the last time I saw it advertised.

I got rid of my 35L and kept the 35/2 IS after using both for a few months as I realized I also really liked doing quick handheld home videos at 35mm. With IS, said lens is a great for general purpose especially for a situation such as the one you are preparing for.

At 549 new and potentially less for a used copy, I'd say the 35/2 IS would give you shallow enough dof, good optics, and IS so that you can keep ISO low while shooting your new baby in the hospital. I have shot handheld with said lens at 1/10th and have gotten good images just as a frame of reference.

The other option I think might be of interest if you are comfortable with manual focus is the Rokinon 35mm which is 400ish. This would give you the 1.4 shallow dof you may be looking for.

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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2013, 06:09:00 PM »

Even though people do the 'math' of, 'well, it's a 1.4 crop factor times a 35mm focal length, so that's right about 50mm....', that is not accurate.  It's still the exact same distortion of a 35mm focal length.

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Distortion is due to the focal distance (except for distortions due to lens design, which is mostly in ultra-wide zooms). 35mm on APS-C = 35 *1.6 FF Equiv =  56mm. Normally this would give little to no observable distortion in adult head and shoulder portraits. But for babies you have to get much closer, and distortion might be noticeable.

I have the 35 f/2 IS and it's a great lens, but if you're doing baby portraits you probably want something tighter. Most baby photographers use an 85 f/1.2 1.4 or 1.8 on a FF camera. That's pretty close to the 50 that you already have (80mm FF equiva.). Move in close to the baby and you should get nice portraits with shallow DOF. If you need tighter, go for the 85 1.8, which is sharp and shallow wide open.
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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2013, 06:23:11 PM »
If one of your main motivations for obtaining the new lens is to shoot/document the birth of your child, 85 on a 1.6x body in a hospital room is definitely not going to do anything for you other than getting tight portraits. My feeling though based on having shot inside the room for both of my own children is that the 35 allowed me to do everything as far as documenting the whole event which for me involved things other than portraits.

Also, distortion on a 35 is easily corrected for in post assuming you even feel like you need it on most of the shots.

Aside from that, you still have the 50 which is plenty good since it is basically an 80mm in your case for the tighter portrait shots.
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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2013, 06:53:43 PM »

Even though people do the 'math' of, 'well, it's a 1.4 crop factor times a 35mm focal length, so that's right about 50mm....', that is not accurate.  It's still the exact same distortion of a 35mm focal length.

-dave

Distortion is due to the focal distance (except for distortions due to lens design, which is mostly in ultra-wide zooms). 35mm on APS-C = 35 *1.6 FF Equiv =  56mm. Normally this would give little to no observable distortion in adult head and shoulder portraits. But for babies you have to get much closer, and distortion might be noticeable.

I have the 35 f/2 IS and it's a great lens, but if you're doing baby portraits you probably want something tighter. Most baby photographers use an 85 f/1.2 1.4 or 1.8 on a FF camera. That's pretty close to the 50 that you already have (80mm FF equiva.). Move in close to the baby and you should get nice portraits with shallow DOF. If you need tighter, go for the 85 1.8, which is sharp and shallow wide open.

Actually the focal length is the same regardless of the size of the sensor.  The sensor frames differently based on its size.
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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2013, 02:15:31 AM »
FWIW our little one came a couple days earlier then I expected. I intended to pick up an 85/1.8, but wasn't able to pick one up in time.

So, I shot with my 50/1.8 on both my crop body and an old film camera. It delivered exactly what I was looking for (well, I don't quite yet know with the film camera, haven't developed the film yet!). 85mm would most certainly have been too tight for the situations I was in, and 35/28 would have been good, but I think the 50 was the perfect balance for what I was interested in.

Thanks to all for the advice! For now I'm a little busy, but I think I'll still pick up the 85/1.8 eventually, the thinner DOF over the 50/1.8 really appeals to me!

TTYL

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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2013, 02:15:31 AM »

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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2013, 03:39:12 AM »
FWIW our little one came a couple days earlier then I expected. I intended to pick up an 85/1.8, but wasn't able to pick one up in time.

So, I shot with my 50/1.8 on both my crop body and an old film camera. It delivered exactly what I was looking for (well, I don't quite yet know with the film camera, haven't developed the film yet!). 85mm would most certainly have been too tight for the situations I was in, and 35/28 would have been good, but I think the 50 was the perfect balance for what I was interested in.

Thanks to all for the advice! For now I'm a little busy, but I think I'll still pick up the 85/1.8 eventually, the thinner DOF over the 50/1.8 really appeals to me!

TTYL

Congratulations!!!  +1.  While using an APS-C, I find the 50mm F1.8 quite good for portraits and 85mm F1.8 quite long especially indoors.  You'll find a 24mm to 35mm focal length good for full body shots though that's why most suggested a 28mm or a 35mm.  Have fun!

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Re: What lens do recommend?
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2013, 03:39:12 AM »