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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2013, 01:36:55 PM »
I use the 13inch (2013) . Retina model and I really like it ... coz it is portable enough to carry anywhere and good enough to edit ... I have no problem with the 13 inch screen size.
The reason for choosing 13 inch MBP was:
A few years ago I had a 17 inch Alienware but the size always got in the way of being able to edit anywhere I liked ... Also when I do plan on sitting for a few hours of editing, I always fire up the iMac ... but for the times when I did not want to sit that long for editing or when I wanted watch a movie on my home theater and have a light weight (and capable) laptop next to me to edit a few photos, (especially during the times when I find a boring part of the movie/tv show or during adverts), but the big 17 inch screen "got in the way" for such activity, so I sold it and got a 14 inch Alienware. But it was still a bit heavy to carry around anywhere (especially during vacations or on the road) ... so I sold it and got a 13 inch MBP in 2012, so I could watch movies/TV shows on my big screen in the living room and pick up the 13 inch MBP do a few quick edits when there are adverts or boring scenes. I sold it last month for the 2013 Retina model ... it is a lot lighter and the battery life is awesome plus its size is perfect for traveling ...   Since I keep all my photos and lightroom catalogs in several 1TB portable USB 3 external hard disks, its easy to plug it into the iMac and continue on with longer editing sessions.   
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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2013, 01:36:55 PM »

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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2013, 01:58:47 PM »
I ask this in all seriousness...not try to start a flamewar...

Why would you install Windows? Is there a video game you play that isn't available on OS X? Follow on question...why Windows 8.1?

No games. I hate osx but there just is not any quality 100% rgb ips laptops out right now that i can find. Any suggestions and i would be glad to return it. 8.1 because it works great for me and is the best version of windows to handle the hi dpi scaling not as good as mavericks but good enough.

Since you hate OSX, you should take a look at Sony Viao Pro 13", the Samsung ATIV Book 8 or 9, and possibly the Asus N550JV or Zenbooks.  Some can be configured to have high pixel density touch screen IPS LED monitors with the current Haswell processors, SSD, with integrate or dedicated graphics.

But if you must really insist on a Mac, be wary as the new entry level 15" Macbook Pro Retina DOES NOT HAVE DEDICATED GRAPHICS.  Primary difference between the top spec 13" MBP Retina vs the entry level MBP Retina are in the screen size/resolution, processor, size and weight.  The integrated Iris Pro graphics in both machines show negligible difference in performance.

As for heat, I have a 2011 15" MBP with a 2 GHZ quard core i7 and replaced it with the top spec 15" MBP Retina with the 2.6 GHZ core i7 haswell.  According to my SystemPal app, the CPUs in both computers still exceed 190 degrees F while conducting the same tasks (extensive photoshop, final cut rendering, and running Win 7 via Parallels).  The fans in the MBP Retina are noticeably quieter than my old model but they stay on for the same amount of time.
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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2013, 03:09:54 PM »
I use the 13inch (2013) . Retina model and I really like it ... coz it is portable enough to carry anywhere and good enough to edit ... I have no problem with the 13 inch screen size.
The reason for choosing 13 inch MBP was:
A few years ago I had a 17 inch Alienware but the size always got in the way of being able to edit anywhere I liked ... Also when I do plan on sitting for a few hours of editing, I always fire up the iMac ... but for the times when I did not want to sit that long for editing or when I wanted watch a movie on my home theater and have a light weight (and capable) laptop next to me to edit a few photos, (especially during the times when I find a boring part of the movie/tv show or during adverts), but the big 17 inch screen "got in the way" for such activity, so I sold it and got a 14 inch Alienware. But it was still a bit heavy to carry around anywhere (especially during vacations or on the road) ... so I sold it and got a 13 inch MBP in 2012, so I could watch movies/TV shows on my big screen in the living room and pick up the 13 inch MBP do a few quick edits when there are adverts or boring scenes. I sold it last month for the 2013 Retina model ... it is a lot lighter and the battery life is awesome plus its size is perfect for traveling ...   Since I keep all my photos and lightroom catalogs in several 1TB portable USB 3 external hard disks, its easy to plug it into the iMac and continue on with longer editing sessions.

Yeah thats a good idea maybe ill consider swapping it for the 13" and spending the extra on a 500gb ssd ext so i could swap the catalog between my workstation and this. Thats exactly what I do some edits between commercials or what he wife is watching.
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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2013, 03:17:54 PM »
I ask this in all seriousness...not try to start a flamewar...

Why would you install Windows? Is there a video game you play that isn't available on OS X? Follow on question...why Windows 8.1?

No games. I hate osx but there just is not any quality 100% rgb ips laptops out right now that i can find. Any suggestions and i would be glad to return it. 8.1 because it works great for me and is the best version of windows to handle the hi dpi scaling not as good as mavericks but good enough.

Since you hate OSX, you should take a look at Sony Viao Pro 13", the Samsung ATIV Book 8 or 9, and possibly the Asus N550JV or Zenbooks.  Some can be configured to have high pixel density touch screen IPS LED monitors with the current Haswell processors, SSD, with integrate or dedicated graphics.

But if you must really insist on a Mac, be wary as the new entry level 15" Macbook Pro Retina DOES NOT HAVE DEDICATED GRAPHICS.  Primary difference between the top spec 13" MBP Retina vs the entry level MBP Retina are in the screen size/resolution, processor, size and weight.  The integrated Iris Pro graphics in both machines show negligible difference in performance.

As for heat, I have a 2011 15" MBP with a 2 GHZ quard core i7 and replaced it with the top spec 15" MBP Retina with the 2.6 GHZ core i7 haswell.  According to my SystemPal app, the CPUs in both computers still exceed 190 degrees F while conducting the same tasks (extensive photoshop, final cut rendering, and running Win 7 via Parallels).  The fans in the MBP Retina are noticeably quieter than my old model but they stay on for the same amount of time.

Ok here is why.
Sony vaio pro 13 and duo 13 have good screens but major wifi issues and cost on the larger specked ones is the same as the 13" pro or base 15 mbpr. At least the mac retains the resale for when a windows machine surfaces with my needs.
Asus ux51 small rgb color space and same high cost
Samsung ativ 9 and yoga 2 both have a. Yellow and green issue
Asus zenbook ux301 is not out but is an option
Otherwise I have not been able to find a decent screen and form factor in the $1500-$1900 range. I do hope sony's vaio flip 13 has the wifi fixed since it seems like an option and the sony's have good rgb screens.

Yeah the 15" still has heat but better battery life. Still struggling with wifi connectivity so may swap it for the 13 till something better gets released toward thee nd of the year or early next.
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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2013, 06:38:18 PM »
I posted about this subject recently and I've yet to pull the trigger....torn between 13 and 15 inch mrpro.

I've had plenty of experience loading and editing on an iPad, and while it has it's downsides, the 9 inch screen wasn't one.  I think the reason is because you hold it so close to your face and it's so easy to pinch/zoom.

With that said, I know you don't view a laptop from the same distance as an iPad, but based on my experience I have to believe that a 13" would be good enough for me....but then again the 15" is bigger and has more power......UGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!

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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2013, 07:39:45 PM »
Ok i calibrated the new 15" macbook pro haswell and it moved up to 100% rgb from 99% on my 2013 model. The contrast was 871:1 which is a slight improvement. Definitely a much brighter panel.

What did you use to calibrate it?

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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2013, 08:58:11 PM »
I posted about this subject recently and I've yet to pull the trigger....torn between 13 and 15 inch mrpro.

My experience for what it's worth on this subject.

Have two Lads, so that's 3 MacBook Pro's, bought 2 x 15" last year with Retina, 1TB (almost) SSD, 8GB RAM, bought 1 x 13", same deal.

I tried the 13" for my go away Photography needs (have an older 15" MacBook Pro that I used to use), found the 13" screen size just wasn't up to what was comfortable, clearly a better fit for weight etc, but the screen size just didn't do it for me, but the Retina display is a total Joy.

Couldn't convince either of my Boys to give up a 15" (ungrateful little People), so just ordered the new MacBook Pro 15" with the Haswell chip.

One of my Lads runs Windows (Games that only run on windows, poor deluded child), with Boot Camp, this 15" MacBook Pro has been back to Apple service 4 times with serious issues, the other 15" that only runs OSX (The smarter of the two), no issues, all bought same time, make your own conclusions don't want to get into a Windows/Apple discussion, about as useless as a Nikon/Canon discussion. My Lad ended up clearing the hard drive of the problematic Mac, returning it to OSX only, and taking My older 15" MacBook Pro and setting it up for Windows only, seems to work well when each Computer is only running OSX or Windows.

I used to run a 17" MacBook Pro, still have it in a cupboard, love the screen size, but don't believe I'de ever go back to the size & weight of the 17" when I feel the 15" just seems the perfect fit.

I see the Op mentions only running SSD 256GB, believe me you will find this just isn't enough HD space, I used to config with 500GB SSD (Almost), but now config with 1TB (Almost), and my new Order I've gone with the 1TB Pcle Flash Storage, another thing if you can pull on the cost, is increase to 16GB SDRAM, unfortunately by the time you push the new MacBook Pro specs to the limits, you now have a USD$3,650 Computer, but it's going to be a screamer, until the new one comes out, next year.
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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2013, 10:16:01 PM »
Ok i calibrated the new 15" macbook pro haswell and it moved up to 100% rgb from 99% on my 2013 model. The contrast was 871:1 which is a slight improvement. Definitely a much brighter panel.

What did you use to calibrate it?

There are software and hardware monitor calibration systems out there.  I use the Xrite Colormunki that uses an external optical lens to measure the monitor's settings compared to the environmental lighting conditions.  Works wonders, especially when calibrated with a printer.
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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2013, 10:55:32 PM »
Ok i calibrated the new 15" macbook pro haswell and it moved up to 100% rgb from 99% on my 2013 model. The contrast was 871:1 which is a slight improvement. Definitely a much brighter panel.

What did you use to calibrate it?
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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2013, 11:02:06 PM »
I posted about this subject recently and I've yet to pull the trigger....torn between 13 and 15 inch mrpro.

My experience for what it's worth on this subject.

Have two Lads, so that's 3 MacBook Pro's, bought 2 x 15" last year with Retina, 1TB (almost) SSD, 8GB RAM, bought 1 x 13", same deal.

I tried the 13" for my go away Photography needs (have an older 15" MacBook Pro that I used to use), found the 13" screen size just wasn't up to what was comfortable, clearly a better fit for weight etc, but the screen size just didn't do it for me, but the Retina display is a total Joy.

Couldn't convince either of my Boys to give up a 15" (ungrateful little People), so just ordered the new MacBook Pro 15" with the Haswell chip.

One of my Lads runs Windows (Games that only run on windows, poor deluded child), with Boot Camp, this 15" MacBook Pro has been back to Apple service 4 times with serious issues, the other 15" that only runs OSX (The smarter of the two), no issues, all bought same time, make your own conclusions don't want to get into a Windows/Apple discussion, about as useless as a Nikon/Canon discussion. My Lad ended up clearing the hard drive of the problematic Mac, returning it to OSX only, and taking My older 15" MacBook Pro and setting it up for Windows only, seems to work well when each Computer is only running OSX or Windows.

I used to run a 17" MacBook Pro, still have it in a cupboard, love the screen size, but don't believe I'de ever go back to the size & weight of the 17" when I feel the 15" just seems the perfect fit.

I see the Op mentions only running SSD 256GB, believe me you will find this just isn't enough HD space, I used to config with 500GB SSD (Almost), but now config with 1TB (Almost), and my new Order I've gone with the 1TB Pcle Flash Storage, another thing if you can pull on the cost, is increase to 16GB SDRAM, unfortunately by the time you push the new MacBook Pro specs to the limits, you now have a USD$3,650 Computer, but it's going to be a screamer, until the new one comes out, next year.

Ok so I stuck with the 256gb for 2 reasons cost and kept the integrated graphics. Finally windows on a retina screen with good battery life. If I had went for the 512 I would have been running the gt 750 all the time and the there comes the heat again. I can say I have done a few boot camp windows installs on all the retina macbooks 13-15 and all the processor variables and once up and running never had an issue but I do it so little tweaks and approaches may not be the norm for others.
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Re: Looking for suggestions on which macbook pro.
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2013, 11:42:56 PM »
I am looking to get either the 13" new haswell macbook pro or the 15".

13"
I5 2.6ghz
8gb ram
512gb ssd
Intel iris 5100 graphics
$1,699

15"
I7 2.0ghz
8gb ram
256gb ssd
Intel iris pro 5200 graphics
$1,899

I want to do pp work at home when its not convenient to use my workstation in the basement. I have the 15" early 2013 but want less heat, better battery life, better wireless, would like more storage but not sure if the 13" will be a huge downgrade for the additional storage. Any suggestions would be helpful. Finally there is the loaded on but costs $600 more and not sure thats the way to go since I generally upgrade yearly.


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It does the job, but a larger external is needed.
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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2013, 02:35:55 AM »
Ok so I stuck with the 256gb for 2 reasons cost and kept the integrated graphics. Finally windows on a retina screen with good battery life. If I had went for the 512 I would have been running the gt 750 all the time and the there comes the heat again. I can say I have done a few boot camp windows installs on all the retina macbooks 13-15 and all the processor variables and once up and running never had an issue but I do it so little tweaks and approaches may not be the norm for others.

I must say on previous MacBook Pros the Boys haven't had the issues we had on this particular one either, I think we just got a Lemon, happens.

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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2013, 08:22:17 AM »
I posted about this subject recently and I've yet to pull the trigger....torn between 13 and 15 inch mrpro.

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