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Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« on: October 25, 2013, 08:42:17 AM »

Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS ready for preorder

The Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG is scheduled to ship on November 4, 2013 according to B&H Photo. The new Art series lens from Sigma will be priced at $899. This is significantly less than the Canon EF 24-105 f/4L IS when purchased new. Although, you can shop around for easy “white box” deals that bring the lens below the Sigma. However, if the Sigma performs better, then the small additional cost may be worth it.


Preorder the Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS at B&H Photo


thanks Alessio


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Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« on: October 25, 2013, 08:42:17 AM »

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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2013, 08:54:28 AM »
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<p><strong>Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS ready for preorder<br />

</strong>The Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG is scheduled to ship on November 4, 2013 according to B&H Photo. The new Art series lens from Sigma will be priced at $899. This is significantly less than the <a href=\"http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/397662-USA/Canon_0344B002AA_24_105mm_f_4L_IS_USM.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296\" target=\"_blank\">Canon EF 24-105 f/4L IS</a> when purchased new. Although, you can shop around for easy “white box” deals that bring the lens below the Sigma. However, if the Sigma performs better, then the small additional cost may be worth it.</p>
<p><strong><a href=\"http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1009621-REG/sigma_635_101_24_105mm_f4_dg_os.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296\" target=\"_blank\">Preorder the Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS at B&H Photo</a></strong></p>
<p><em>thanks Alessio</em></p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>


OK...this is funny...4 posts back on the rumor homepage is the canon 24-105mm alert for $639... That is quite a bit cheaper...plus the Canon has IS.  I am a little slow on the uptake sometimes...but the Sigma has no IS...correct?
I owned the Canon and it is a very decent Zoom lens ...especially at $639!...
I am A Sigma Fan...own the new 35mm....but I am wondering if this lens really best the IQ on the Canon "significantly" asit will have to to sell well, right?
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 08:55:20 AM »
The lenses sigma announced recently (18-35/ 35 1.4) are now sold for 20-25% less than at the beginning. I'd expect this lens to have a 600-650 $/€ street-price tag within a year.
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2013, 08:57:25 AM »
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<p><strong>Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS ready for preorder<br />

</strong>The Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG is scheduled to ship on November 4, 2013 according to B&H Photo. The new Art series lens from Sigma will be priced at $899. This is significantly less than the <a href=\"http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/397662-USA/Canon_0344B002AA_24_105mm_f_4L_IS_USM.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296\" target=\"_blank\">Canon EF 24-105 f/4L IS</a> when purchased new. Although, you can shop around for easy “white box” deals that bring the lens below the Sigma. However, if the Sigma performs better, then the small additional cost may be worth it.</p>
<p><strong><a href=\"http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1009621-REG/sigma_635_101_24_105mm_f4_dg_os.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296\" target=\"_blank\">Preorder the Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS at B&H Photo</a></strong></p>
<p><em>thanks Alessio</em></p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>


OK...this is funny...4 posts back on the rumor homepage is the canon 24-105mm alert for $639... That is quite a bit cheaper...plus the Canon has IS.  I am a little slow on the uptake sometimes...but the Sigma has no IS...correct?
I owned the Canon and it is a very decent Zoom lens ...especially at $639!...
I am A Sigma Fan...own the new 35mm....but I am wondering if this lens really best the IQ on the Canon "significantly" asit will have to to sell well, right?

The sigma has stabilization. They call it 'Optical Stabilizer' (OS) instead of 'Image Stabilizer' (IS).
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 09:11:02 AM »
OK...this is funny...4 posts back on the rumor homepage is the canon 24-105mm alert for $639... That is quite a bit cheaper...plus the Canon has IS.  I am a little slow on the uptake sometimes...but the Sigma has no IS...correct?
I owned the Canon and it is a very decent Zoom lens ...especially at $639!...
I am A Sigma Fan...own the new 35mm....but I am wondering if this lens really best the IQ on the Canon "significantly" asit will have to to sell well, right?

A couple of things.

1) As mentioned previously, Sigma have their own equivalent of Canon's "IS".
2) The 24-105Ls that are selling for $639 are lenses that have been pulled from kits - they're not standalone lenses. Here is the standalone version of the lens priced at $1149 at B&H:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/397662-USA/Canon_0344B002AA_24_105mm_f_4L_IS_USM.html
If you look at this page:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?atclk=Zoom+Focal+Lengths_24-105mm&ci=274&N=4288584247+4261208183
Then the Sigma lens is $250 cheaper.
3) If the MTF graphs are anything to by then yes, this lens will easily surpass the current Canon version.

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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 09:12:32 AM »
I think it's safe to say that a lot of people will be eagerly awaiting a hands-on review of this lens.
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 09:26:39 AM »
A couple of things.
1) As mentioned previously, Sigma have their own equivalent of Canon's "IS".
2) The 24-105Ls that are selling for $639 are lenses that have been pulled from kits - they're not standalone lenses. Here is the standalone version of the lens priced at $1149 at B&H...
3) If the MTF graphs are anything to by then yes, this lens will easily surpass the current Canon version.

A few things:
1) Sigma have their own equivalent of Canon's USM, called HSM. That doesn't mean it's as fast or as accurate as Canon's USM AF.
2) Kit lenses differ from standalone lenses only in the printing (or lack thereof) on the packaging.  I'm sure there are some willing to pay several hundred dollars for a few microliters of ink sprayed onto the cardboard box, but let's compare lens prices, shall we?  I'm sure we'll see the street price of the Sigma drop pretty soon.
3) Comparing theoretical MTF graphs between manufacturers isn't terribly valid.
4) "A couple things," means two...not three.  ;)
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 09:37:15 AM »
Optics over stability ANYDAY

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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 09:52:05 AM »
I've been a big fan of Sigma lenses and regard my trio of 1.4 primes as near perfect. This lens is really tempting as a walk around lens with two caveats: lack of weather sealing, and telescoping lens barrel. I went from the Canon 24-105 to the Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC and have been very happy, however I'm expecting big things from this Sigma in terms of IQ. I can't wait for the reviews!
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 09:54:50 AM »
2) Kit lenses differ from standalone lenses only in the printing (or lack thereof) on the packaging.  I'm sure there are some willing to pay several hundred dollars for a few microliters of ink sprayed onto the cardboard box, but let's compare lens prices, shall we?  I'm sure we'll see the street price of the Sigma drop pretty soon.
Well, technically Canon could do an about face on policy tomorrow, stop honoring repairs on lenses not bought from authorized dealers (like Nikon), and you'd be screwed. Or, they could stop honoring warranties on items not purchased via authorized channels. That's unlikely, but, there is more than just ink that makes the difference. I wouldnt pay hundreds more for that difference. But, Amazon was just selling the authorized version for $699, so I'd go that route and pay the extra $60 no doubt. Especially for the risk you get a lens that is misaligned or has something DOA.

So, price is definitely not the major separating factor right now. If anything, this guarantees that Canons version never goes back above $800 in real-street price. Now it's just a matter of seeing how it performs. If its sharper/has less distortion/etc, then the prices are close enough that people would go Sigma

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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 10:02:15 AM »
 if I didn't already have a 105 I might consider this...  but I do...  and if I am going to upgrade it would probably be to the 24-70 mkii...  so this really doesn't do much for me other than maybe deflate the of of my  current 105.
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2013, 10:18:23 AM »
This would make a good kit bundle lens if it proves to. E sharp and accurate.  It would probably be quite cheap that way. Too bad the Sigma cameras are so weird though.  Massive image files and correspondingly weak fps and buffer depth but not enough IQ benefit to justify the triple file size.
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2013, 10:19:33 AM »
Lots of trash talk going on here...

Sigma is facing a few problems with this lens, but so far I think they made the right decisions:

1) The EF 24-105's price is low, when purchased as a kit or as a used kit lens.
2) The EF 24-105's IQ is quite good.

Answers:

1) The street price of this lens will soon be low enough to challenge the Canon.
2) Well, we will see  ;D

One thing to keep in mind:
Neither Sony nor Nikon offer lenses like this, so there might be a bigger market on the dark side.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2013, 10:19:33 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2013, 10:38:29 AM »
Lots of trash talk going on here...

Sigma is facing a few problems with this lens, but so far I think they made the right decisions:

1) The EF 24-105's price is low, when purchased as a kit or as a used kit lens.
2) The EF 24-105's IQ is quite good.

Answers:

1) The street price of this lens will soon be low enough to challenge the Canon.
2) Well, we will see  ;D

One thing to keep in mind:
Neither Sony nor Nikon offer lenses like this, so there might be a bigger market on the dark side.

"trash talk" Huh?

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2013, 10:38:38 AM »
I am not trashing the lens. In fact if the IQ is greatly better than the Canon version then I believe that I will buy the lens. 

I am pointing out, however, the big elephant in Sigma's room.  They have begun producing some very impressive lenses, and producing them quite rapidly. But their cameras are just so weird that they do not seem likely to gain nearly the market share on the bodies that it seems plausible they may gain gain on the great lenses.  Maybe they need to make a sensor deal with Sony like Nikon did, and produce a line of "straight" cameras if the Foveon thing never fully catches on.  Or make their own.  Maybe a non-bayer approach like Fuji is using.
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