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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2013, 10:35:13 PM »


You're living in the ancient past. Sigma's primary motivation now is image quality not price.

Sigma has been releasing lenses that blow their competitors out of the water in quality at around or slightly below their competitors prices:

If you have any doubts take a look at these real world samples:

Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 vs Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 @ f/2.8

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=854&Camera=736&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=398&Sample=0&CameraComp=736&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=854&Camera=736&Sample=0&FLI=1&API=2&LensComp=398&CameraComp=736&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=1&APIComp=0

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=854&Camera=736&Sample=0&FLI=3&API=2&LensComp=398&CameraComp=736&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=2&APIComp=0

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=854&Camera=736&Sample=0&FLI=4&API=2&LensComp=398&CameraComp=736&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=3&APIComp=0

There's no comparison, the Sigma is in an entirely different league of image quality. Their 35mm f/1.4 is likewise better:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=829&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=121&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

And their 85mm f/1.4 is both sharper than Canon's 85mm f/1.2 II, and has much less purple fringing (the f/1.2 II has so much you can't even correct it automatically, which is why I use the Sigma)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=756&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=397&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

Sigma makes a better lens that Canon does. Sometimes much better, this is the new Sigma.

I would be very surprised if the 24-105mm OS wasn't marginally better and I'd be very happy if it blew the Canon out of the water like they did with the f/1.8 zoom.

You sure about the 85mm 1.2? I've rented the 85 1.4 and it's a good lens but from what most say the 85 1.2 is still better. The main reason why it's a good deal is the faster AF and being half the price. I'm renting the 85 1.2 for a wedding this weekend so we'll see what I think of it then. The 85 1.4 is a little older than the 35 and 18-35 though so perhaps an indicator of the direction they were heading in. It'd be nice for them to release an "Art" version of it with some minor updates.
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2013, 10:35:13 PM »

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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2013, 09:12:54 AM »
I second that. The Sigma 85mm 1.4 is no match for the 85L, especially not for the bokeh (yes, there is more than sharpness, even if I think the Canon is sharper @f1.4).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/63271580@N00/6627475291#

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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2013, 11:48:56 PM »
I second that. The Sigma 85mm 1.4 is no match for the 85L, especially not for the bokeh (yes, there is more than sharpness, even if I think the Canon is sharper @f1.4).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/63271580@N00/6627475291#

@Radiating:   I really like what Sigma is doing at the moment, but keep the feet at the ground!

I got the 85 1.2 in. Man that things heavy! It's been a while since I shot with the Sigma but what I'm seeing just in test shots tells me this lens is better than the Sigma. How much better? I don't know but I'd definitely say better. I'll have a better idea after this weekend but I can see why people snob their nose at the sigma. But I can also say the Sigma isn't a bad lens. The Canon just has "that look" and I can see why if you've got the money it might be worth it over the Sigma depending on how you're using it and needs.
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2013, 03:01:43 AM »
The 85mm 1.2 is a very special lense... maybe sometimes people don't understand the meaning of "fast lenses", this is no regard to the Autofocussystem ;)   The usual use is for portrait or fashionphotography, so the model is (normally) not running through the picture like a small child.

As I also work with older MF-cameras, like the Zenza Bronica ETRS... where everything is about manual focusing, I never complain about AF_Speed, anyway. Composing an image is something different from shooting action events. I would be angry if the AF-Speed of an EF 24-70 2.8L II wouldn't outperform other lenses, but not on this lense.

The only thing I have to admit is that not everyone is able or fancy to get such an expensive lense. I myself always dreamed of having one and it took me some time to get hold of it (I shoot for fun, not for money). So, I think the sigma is a really fair packet, but on the other side, there is one hell of a 85mm 1.8 from Canon. And if you don't need the 1/3 stop on 1.2, so why bothering about the 1/3 to the 1.8  ::)
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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2013, 09:40:26 AM »
if I didn't already have a 105 I might consider this...  but I do...  and if I am going to upgrade it would probably be to the 24-70 mkii...  so this really doesn't do much for me other than maybe deflate the of of my  current 105.

This is what I did, sold the 24-105 and upgraded to 24-70 II.  Fortunately, the $1699 deal came around at the same time.  If you can do it, do it.

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Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2013, 09:40:26 AM »