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Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« on: April 09, 2014, 10:38:42 AM »
So I want to start shooting video on my 5Diii. I've done it on a friends 5Diii for his band before but he set up all the settings for what he required.

I've been shooting for about 15 years so I'm pretty proficient and understand the delicacies of still photography but I'm not properly down with frame rates vs. shutter speed when filming.

Are there any set rules that I can follow? I don't really want it to be trial and error...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAVURlM7nKU : this is the kind of thing I'll be aiming for, with shots from recording, playing live, some set up against coloured backgrounds and messing about etc, I'll be using 35mm 1.4, 50mm 1.4, 100mm 2.8 so nice fast lenses so high ISO's wont be an issue.

what would be the best shutter speed and frame rate to use? does it really matter that much? I'll be editing it all in premiere pro i guess...

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Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« on: April 09, 2014, 10:38:42 AM »

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Re: Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2014, 12:52:32 PM »
the basic rule of thumb is to double the frame rate to establish your shutter speed. With Pal your frame rate is typically 25 fps so your shutter speed should be 1/50 of a second.  Of course all rules can be broken to get some creative effects. 

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Re: Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2014, 01:22:02 PM »
OMGzzzz fps! this is the most complicated thing ever. I don't even know how to work Premier Pro! I assume that I bang it all into there, do my cutting and post-produce in After Effects???
5Diii, 60D, 500D, EX580, loads of crappy flash guns... 28mm 1.8, Sigma 35mm 1.4 Art, 50mm 1.4, 100mm macro 2.8, 24-105mm 4L, 70-200mm 2.8L, lensbaby composer...

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Re: Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2014, 03:14:23 PM »
OMGzzzz fps! this is the most complicated thing ever. I don't even know how to work Premier Pro! I assume that I bang it all into there, do my cutting and post-produce in After Effects???


Its not that complicated.
Go to the camera menu, set it up the way you want it.
1080/30p (looks more like home video)
1080/24p (looks more like film).
720/60p (for slow motion stuff)

Set shutter speed to be double that of the frames, so 30p = 60; 24p = 48 (but there is no 48 on your 5DIII, so set it at 50 - close enough) and obviously 60p = 120.

If you want to know the theory behind it, check this out:
Lok C Top Tips: How to record awesome videos on a DSLR Part 2 Small | Large
Canon 7D - EF-S 18-135mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS, EF 50mm f/1.4, EF 100mm f/2.0, Sigma 30mm f/1.4, Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 & Sigma EX DG 17-35mm 1:2.8-4

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Re: Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 04:39:29 PM »

1080/30p (looks more like home video)
1080/24p (looks more like film).
720/60p (for slow motion stuff)


Hi mkabi, aren't those numbers base on the NTSC system,  if he's in the UK wouldn't he be better off standardizing his workflow to the PAL system?



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Re: Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2014, 05:13:02 AM »
does PAL and NTSC count any more with most things being viewed on an LED TV or computer screen?

Cheers for the help. I'd be going for more of a film effect
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Re: Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2014, 09:13:44 AM »
Imperial or Metric? as someone who doesn't care for fractions I know what I would choose, the lobbyist (auto industry) in my country don't feel the same way.

there are some ACs that would disagree with claiming 24fps is the easy answer for "the film look" shutter angle, cine lenses, etc... not to mention the production itself such as lighting, dolly and crane moves all convey the cinematic storytelling experience

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Re: Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2014, 11:11:00 AM »
I'll do my post-production in instagram for that film effect
5Diii, 60D, 500D, EX580, loads of crappy flash guns... 28mm 1.8, Sigma 35mm 1.4 Art, 50mm 1.4, 100mm macro 2.8, 24-105mm 4L, 70-200mm 2.8L, lensbaby composer...

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Re: Quick start videoing on 5Diii
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2014, 11:11:00 AM »