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lilmsmaggie

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Re: Off Brand: Nikon Announces the Df
« Reply #135 on: November 06, 2013, 05:44:18 PM »
Ah, ah, ah ... Don't let the folks over at APUG, Large Format Photographers forum or RangeFinder forum hear you say that.   

Them's fighting words ...Lol

Not to mention all those Leica and Holga/lomography film shooters out there. 


Unfortunately, whereas you can still use a classic car, a film camera now has little practical use. 
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Re: Off Brand: Nikon Announces the Df
« Reply #135 on: November 06, 2013, 05:44:18 PM »

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Re: Off Brand: Nikon Announces the Df
« Reply #136 on: November 06, 2013, 08:56:30 PM »
Um, er, only 50 some posts, I've drawn Neuro's ire already, oh my......

Because you seem to lack the ability to argue with facts, and so you argue with emotion.  This will not get you far, except with the media.

So the F-150 and Mustang both have a 3.7L V6.  Heck, the same 2.0T I4 is found in the Focus ST, the Fusion, and the Lincoln MKZ.  Would you say they are the same car?  Does the package surrounding the engine define the purpose of the car?  Just because the sensor (motor) is the same, doesn't mean the package is the same.
Thanks so much for making my point.
In this automotive example, the 'heart' (I should have posted "heart" rather than "guts" above)  is the same even though the vehicle and features differ. The 3.7 has the same combustion efficiency regardless of what vehicle it is installed in, ditto the 2.0T.
To further this Ford automotive analogy, The MKZ can be had with a 2.0T or a 3.7, same package with similar features, different heart.

A similar analogy works when comparing the Df and the D4, same heart, different features.
Comparing the Df with the D610 reveals similar fearures with a far different heart as in the MKZ analogy.
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Am I arguing with emotion as you state? I think not.
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to suggest falling back on manual focus as a routine practice makes about as much sense as recommending that everyone use an abacus to fill out their tax return.
Gee, sorry for you that falling back to manual focus makes abacus sense to you. To me, and possibly to many others it makes perfect and practical sense.
Any time any machine fails to respond as and when I expect, I appreciate when said machine allows me to take control and achieve the end result I expect and desire.

Are you saying you'd prefer lens manufacturers reduce price by leaving off manual focus rings? If not, pray tell why the hostility regarding practice to the point of expertise of manual focusing skills?
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.......it's kinda nice not to have to burn the rest of the roll, or rewind carefully to leave a tab exposed, when wanting to change ISO speed.  ....
I quite miss doing just that, I do not missing having to do that.
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Um, er, only 50 some posts, I've drawn Neuro's ire already, oh my......

It's not the quantity, but rather, the quality...or more precisely, the lack thereof, that I find annoying.
That ^ comment is unnecessary, un-called for and offensive.
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Back on topic, I think the Df is absolutely gorgeous, the concept brilliant. Too bad it's a Nikon.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Off Brand: Nikon Announces the Df
« Reply #137 on: November 06, 2013, 11:45:52 PM »
It's an 'okay' looking camera. It might even be better looking than the Sony A7(R) cameras.  Maybe.  But the Sony's have much better specs, do video AND are less expensive.  Am I missing something?

I agree.  If it were an APS-C sensor and costing around $1200, it would be a fun and cute camera to have.  Even with FF, it's incredibly overpriced.  $1800 tops.

Sorry Nikon.  Thanks for trying at least.   :'(
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Re: Off Brand: Nikon Announces the Df
« Reply #138 on: November 07, 2013, 01:57:07 AM »
Just wait until your fore finger needs to reach up and press the shutter button...

color me different then, I prefer a top-deck SR button to the forward angled ones near the front of grips of most cameras today.
However, until I wrap my mitts around a real Df I can't say for sure how well this particular model will fit my hand.  Various photos I've seen makes me think there's a good chance I will like it.

What I'm already sure I won't like is apparently (somewhere I read that) the little PASM mode dial needs to be LIFTED to be turned! If true, that's daft!
The button locks for the other dials should be easy enough to manage with one finger but it's gonna be next to impossible to change mode without taking that camera away from your eye and using both hands with some effort. It should just be a stiffly detented click-stop movement with PASM indicator in the viewfinder.  I don't like how this part works, I regularly switch between A and M.  This would slow me down a bit too much.
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Re: Off Brand: Nikon Announces the Df
« Reply #139 on: November 07, 2013, 02:08:55 AM »
This is the ugliest camera i have ever seen. it looks like a cheap nikon from every angle and the "classic" parts are really ugly and don't go together with the modern camera parts and doesn't even look classic or retro.

I really hope canon doesn't go with this design trend ever..

If it had a full metal body similar to the old ones this would be what it was meant to be.
It would still be ugly though.

Leica's are supermodels and the nikon df is a 60 year old grandma putting on some makeup and entering a beauty pageant.

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Re: Off Brand: Nikon Announces the Df
« Reply #139 on: November 07, 2013, 02:08:55 AM »