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Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« on: November 04, 2013, 07:27:12 AM »

Tamron announcement November 7, 2103

As previously mentioned, Tamron will be announcing a new lens on November 7, 2013.


Apparently the new lens will be a replacement for the current 200-500 f/5-6.3 lens. The new lens will have an increased zoom range (150-500?) and vibration correction (Tamron’s IS).


This is going to be a development announcement, we won’t see the lens until well into 2014. Pricing will not be immediately announced either.


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Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« on: November 04, 2013, 07:27:12 AM »

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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 07:58:54 AM »
Sad enough to announce the development of a new version of an old, not so great lens.

Though to be fair, Tamron is being doing nice things lately, so it might be interesting.

Maybe they are delayed because the engineering team is working on lenses for the a7?

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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 10:52:57 AM »
Sad enough to announce the development of a new version of an old, not so great lens.

Though to be fair, Tamron is being doing nice things lately, so it might be interesting.

Maybe they are delayed because the engineering team is working on lenses for the a7?

It's marketing, nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 11:00:36 AM »
Sad enough to announce the development of a new version of an old, not so great lens.

Though to be fair, Tamron is being doing nice things lately, so it might be interesting.

Maybe they are delayed because the engineering team is working on lenses for the a7?

It's marketing, nothing more, nothing less.

Not the smartest one, since it screams "don't buy the version 1".

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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 11:10:55 AM »
Here is the patent for what is coming.

http://photorumors.com/2012/10/25/tamron-files-a-patent-for-a-150-600mm-f5-6-3-lens/

It will likely weight 3kg and cannot be handheld at 600mm.  I don't see this as a replacement for Sigma 50-500mm which can be handheld when needed.  This new Tamron will be a tripod only lens.

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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 11:41:55 AM »
Here is the patent for what is coming.

http://photorumors.com/2012/10/25/tamron-files-a-patent-for-a-150-600mm-f5-6-3-lens/

It will likely weight 3kg and cannot be handheld at 600mm.  I don't see this as a replacement for Sigma 50-500mm which can be handheld when needed.  This new Tamron will be a tripod only lens.

600mm and F6.3 at the long end? That's going to be a 95mm chunk of glass at the end.... Similar sized FIXED lenses from Canon weigh in at around 2.6Kilos and cost $6000... If true, we are probably looking at 3-3.5Kilos for this lens (zooms weigh more than fixed) and probably $3000...
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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 11:46:40 AM »
Will be exciting if it has decent optical performance, but that seems extremely unlikely.  I'd much rather see a narrower zoom range with fewer compromises, or a prime that comes close to an L at a better price.  Canon has way too little competition when it comes to quality telephotos.

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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 11:50:15 AM »
Someone needs to come out with a current high quality 400mm f5.6 prime.  I would switch systems for a high quality handheld bird lens.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 12:01:15 PM »
Someone needs to come out with a current high quality 400mm f5.6 prime.  I would switch systems for a high quality handheld bird lens.
I think that there are a lot of people interested in a new version of the 400F5.6.... I would get it....
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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 07:17:17 PM »
Someone needs to come out with a current high quality 400mm f5.6 prime.  I would switch systems for a high quality handheld bird lens.
I think that there are a lot of people interested in a new version of the 400F5.6.... I would get it....

I love my 400mm f/5.6L... Is there anything this "lot" of people need from it that it doesn't have/do?! Weather sealing, sure, but asides from that I love it's relatively light weight and small size without IS/zoom/wider aperture - coupled with the 5D3 sensor's ISO handling this thing's even incredible when losing daylight!
I guess closer focusing would be nice but that'd maybe ruin the magical optical formula! ;)
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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 08:09:51 PM »
Someone needs to come out with a current high quality 400mm f5.6 prime.  I would switch systems for a high quality handheld bird lens.
I think that there are a lot of people interested in a new version of the 400F5.6.... I would get it....

I love my 400mm f/5.6L... Is there anything this "lot" of people need from it that it doesn't have/do?! Weather sealing, sure, but asides from that I love it's relatively light weight and small size without IS/zoom/wider aperture - coupled with the 5D3 sensor's ISO handling this thing's even incredible when losing daylight!
I guess closer focusing would be nice but that'd maybe ruin the magical optical formula! ;)

The 400mm is 20 years old so a current design would be a noticeable upgrade in IQ.  IS would add to it's value as you could shoot using lower ISOs for non-BIF shots.

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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 10:04:18 PM »
Someone needs to come out with a current high quality 400mm f5.6 prime.  I would switch systems for a high quality handheld bird lens.
I think that there are a lot of people interested in a new version of the 400F5.6.... I would get it....

I love my 400mm f/5.6L... Is there anything this "lot" of people need from it that it doesn't have/do?! Weather sealing, sure, but asides from that I love it's relatively light weight and small size without IS/zoom/wider aperture - coupled with the 5D3 sensor's ISO handling this thing's even incredible when losing daylight!
I guess closer focusing would be nice but that'd maybe ruin the magical optical formula! ;)

It's a good lens but it could be significantly sharper, and it desperately needs IS. Try a 300mm f/2.8 +1.4xTC and you will see what a tack sharp modern lens can do. Even my Sigma Tele Macro f/5.6 400mm is sharper than my former 400mm f/5.6 L. That is not just a personal view, you can check the MTFs on Photozone.
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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2013, 08:02:57 AM »
Someone needs to come out with a current high quality 400mm f5.6 prime.  I would switch systems for a high quality handheld bird lens.
I think that there are a lot of people interested in a new version of the 400F5.6.... I would get it....

I love my 400mm f/5.6L... Is there anything this "lot" of people need from it that it doesn't have/do?! Weather sealing, sure, but asides from that I love it's relatively light weight and small size without IS/zoom/wider aperture - coupled with the 5D3 sensor's ISO handling this thing's even incredible when losing daylight!
I guess closer focusing would be nice but that'd maybe ruin the magical optical formula! ;)

It's a good lens but it could be significantly sharper, and it desperately needs IS. Try a 300mm f/2.8 +1.4xTC and you will see what a tack sharp modern lens can do. Even my Sigma Tele Macro f/5.6 400mm is sharper than my former 400mm f/5.6 L. That is not just a personal view, you can check the MTFs on Photozone.

Having used a 600F4 (not mine... wish it was...) the difference between the latest long lenses and the old designs is night and day... it really spoils you... The 400F5.6 is not a sharp lens. Modern zoom lenses like the 70-200F4 are significantly sharper and even with a teleconverter can out-resolve the 400F5.6 , and when a zoom lens is sharper than a prime, you know the prime needs to be re-worked.
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Re: Tamron Announcing New 150-500 Shortly? [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2013, 08:02:57 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2013, 11:42:18 AM »
Having used a 600F4 (not mine... wish it was...) the difference between the latest long lenses and the old designs is night and day... it really spoils you... The 400F5.6 is not a sharp lens. Modern zoom lenses like the 70-200F4 are significantly sharper and even with a teleconverter can out-resolve the 400F5.6 , and when a zoom lens is sharper than a prime, you know the prime needs to be re-worked.

Not sure this is going to happen.  Look at  the 200mm F2.8L.  The 70-200mm zooms have gone through two or more iterations and are now arguably sharper.   The 200mm f2.8L is about the same vintage as the 400mm f5.6L, both were stellar lenses in their day, but the trend now is for zooms.  Just be glad canon has kept producing the 400mm. No one else has anything comparable.

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