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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2013, 03:07:57 PM »
The biggest difference I would guess would be no 135 MkII but instead a 14-24 f2.8 or at least an updated ultra wide f2.8 with possibly not the same focal lengths as the not widely respected 16-35.

I think the "new" 50 will be an f2 IS, but with a more modest launch price than the other newer non L IS prImes, I think Canon have learnt from the market the pricing of this series and an f2 will make them more money than an f1.8.

I also think the 180 macro update will be more esoteric than a simple 200 IS.

But time will tell......

Lots of people want a 14-24, I'm not sure we'll get it.

50/2 IS makes sense.

The 200/4 Macro would have Hybrid IS, of course.  I suppose Canon could try a TS Macro, but at 200mm I don't think that makes sense (not that that would necessarily stop them).

I left off the 100-400 II and 400/5.6 IS on purpose.  I think Canon wants people to continue buying the current one (they still are) or the 70-300L, while lusting after the 200-400+1.4x.
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2013, 03:07:57 PM »

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2013, 03:12:43 PM »
35L II
135L II
800L II
200/4L Macro IS
TS-E 45/2.8L
TS-E 90/2.8L

50/1.8 IS

...and a couple of consumer-grade zooms with STM, can't have enough of those...

6 L's? Sounds like a lot. I would rather expect more high volume consumer lenses (indeed with STM). Or was this your wish list?

A 400 f4 L IS (non DO) at a price around 5000 would be interesting (but would probably not make much business sense for Canon as it would eat into the same markets of the much more expensive 200-400/4, 400/2.8 and 500/4)
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2013, 03:23:58 PM »
As much as we want to see an updated 100-400mm and a 14-24 f/2.8 L-series lenses, it's the EF-S wide angle options that are really missing. How can Canon (and Nikon) convince their bread-and-butter market to stay with them rather than go mirrorless, when neither manufacturer produces a suitable (non-fisheye) prime wider than normal (and Canon doesn't even produce these)? What are Canon's wide angle options for the "serious enthusiast"?

  • EF-S 10-22mm f/4-5.6 USM
  • EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM
  • EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

And that's it! Probably 85% plus of the customers who will purchase more than one lens are meant to be served by those three zooms for their wide angle needs. OK, there are the new 24 & 28mm f/2.8 IS lenses, but they aren't any faster than the 17-55mm zoom, so (given their price) don't really make sense in the APS-C sphere.  Likewise, an APS-C user could use the 14mm f/2.8L and the 24mm f/1.4L to fill in the wide angle gap, but if you're willing to shell out on these lenses, you may as well go full frame. That's probably Canon's thinking too, but how many people are instead changing to a mirrorless system like m4/3rds or Fuji X-mount? For those that would argue that there isn't a market for fast, wide angle primes, this is how m4/3rds compares:

  • Olympus M.ZUIKO  ED 12mm f/2
  • Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 Lumix G
  • Olympus M.ZUIKO 17mm f/2.8 Pancake
  • Olympus M.ZUIKO 17mm f/1.8
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 Lumix G

And this is from a system that has been around for less time than Canon EF-S and has less market share. What about the still less than 18 month old X-mount?

  • Fujifilm 14mm XF f/2.8 R
  • Fujifilm 18mm XF f/2 R
  • Fujifilm 23mm XF f/1.4 R
  • Fujifilm 27mm XF f2.8

If Canon is to meet the mirrorless competition, it needs to produce something like:

  • EF-S 15mm f/2 STM
  • EF-S 22mm f/2 IS STM or EF-S 22mm f/1.4 STM
  • EF-S 30mm f/1.4 IS STM




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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2013, 03:27:34 PM »
35L II
135L II
800L II
200/4L Macro IS
TS-E 45/2.8L
TS-E 90/2.8L

50/1.8 IS

...and a couple of consumer-grade zooms with STM, can't have enough of those...

Nice list!
Why not 1.4 on the 50 though?
I'd defo put that one my wish list
I'm of an age where I'd need is on the 135 though :-(

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2013, 03:30:33 PM »
I suppose most of the candidates are listed by now. But nobody seem to be expecting any new DO lenses. If they could improve IQ just a little bit, the size and weight advantage is significant. My wife rented a 400 DO and loved it.

How about a 500mm or 600mm f5.6 IS DO or a 100-400mm f4-5.6 IS DO, preferably in L-packaging?
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2013, 03:50:04 PM »
I shall get the new 100-400 the day it becomes available.  8)

I'll wait six months till the price drops.

Maybe I will.  ;)
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2013, 04:12:00 PM »
I expect the following lenses:

100-400 II
An UWA Lens
More primes like the 24/28/35 IS: a 50mm maybe a new 85 1.8.
35 1.4 II
Maybe new ts-e lenses
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2013, 04:12:00 PM »

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2013, 04:26:54 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if there is such a thing as a 50mm f2 IS STM, would make a lot of sense for the video people. 135mm f2 IS would be high on the list of realistic things. I also wonder if they won't axe the 24-105 and the 28-135 and combine the two in a consumer grade lens. The 24-105 is already going so cheap it is only twice the price of the 28-135 and a replacement for example 24-135 IS USM would make a great kit with the 6D to differentiate the market and also push more of the far more expensive 24-70 f4. The 400 and the 100-400 have been ready for an update for ages but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't get updated this time either. An updated 17-55 f2.8 with weather sealing would make sense if there is a 7DII coming out soon. An updated non-stabilised 70-200 f2.8 would be nice. Maybe an updated 180mm macro so it matches the new sigma  offerings of 150-180mm with f2.8 and IS

There's a lot of lenses that canon make I don't see much point in making any more, there's for example USM and a non USM version of the 75-300. A couple of the wide primes I wonder about and also the 200 2.8. If that got IS it would make more sense to keep it. I wonder if anyone has bought a 135 softfocus any time in the last few years? An updated 50mm macro would be interesting but then they may as well just axe the lens completely as the 100mm macro isn't much more expensive and the 60mm macro is more suited to aps-c anyway.

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2013, 04:30:34 PM »
My wish list:

16-35 2.8L III ... sharper, and smaller, maybe even with IS for video
20 2.8 IS
50 1.4 IS
85 1.8 IS
200 2.8 IS ... 135 f/2L IS, compatible with teleconverters
100-400 4-5.6L IS
24-70 2.8 IS


Wow, that's some really shaky hands you got here...  :o
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2013, 04:44:16 PM »
35L II
135L II
800L II
200/4L Macro IS
TS-E 45/2.8L
TS-E 90/2.8L

50/1.8 IS

...and a couple of consumer-grade zooms with STM, can't have enough of those...

6 L's? Sounds like a lot. I would rather expect more high volume consumer lenses (indeed with STM). Or was this your wish list?

Not mine...   ;)  Well, I'd like a 35L II.

I think the TS-E lenses are ready (designs locked, production tooling ready), and have been for a while, but Canon sat on them due to the economy.  Possible the tele macro, as well.

Why not 1.4 on the 50 though?

The new non-L IS primes have all been slower than one might expect, likely to keep costs low with the addition of IS. I expect the new 50 to follow suit.
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2013, 05:01:18 PM »
Count me in for these:
1. 135 f2 IS
2. 85L f1.2, faster AF
3. 14-24 f2.8 or 16-35 f2.8 III - good as Nikon 14-24 or better

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2013, 05:12:55 PM »
Canon needs to step up its game. Sigma has made a killing recently with its cheaper but better alternatives (35mm f1.4 and the 18-35mm f1.8, and perhaps the 24-105mm after tests come out). Canon cannot hope to maintain a higher price tag for lenses with equal or lesser quality. I can understand a Canon costing more than a Sigma, but at least the sharpness, distortion, etc etc have to be the same. The red ring along isn't going to fool customers into paying extra anymore.

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2013, 05:15:49 PM »
Canon needs to step up its game. Sigma has made a killing recently with its cheaper but better alternatives (35mm f1.4 and the 18-35mm f1.8, and perhaps the 24-105mm after tests come out). Canon cannot hope to maintain a higher price tag for lenses with equal or lesser quality. I can understand a Canon costing more than a Sigma, but at least the sharpness, distortion, etc etc have to be the same. The red ring along isn't going to fool customers into paying extra anymore.

You can only speak for yourself. As far as myself is concerned, I think that the logo "Canon" means the foremost quality possible, and the red ring is almost the equivalent of the Holy Grail. You see, there's a reason why they say: You get what you pay for!!!!
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« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2013, 05:15:49 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2013, 05:23:27 PM »
Everyone thus far has forgotten to include the 16-50/L IS that was meant for this year:

2010: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=16.0 EF 16-50 f/4L H-IS
2013: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=15455.0 14-24 f/2.8L, EF 16-50 f/4L IS

2012: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7362.0 14-24 after the 200-400.
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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2013, 05:26:53 PM »
Canon needs to step up its game. Sigma has made a killing recently with its cheaper but better alternatives (35mm f1.4 and the 18-35mm f1.8, and perhaps the 24-105mm after tests come out). Canon cannot hope to maintain a higher price tag for lenses with equal or lesser quality. I can understand a Canon costing more than a Sigma, but at least the sharpness, distortion, etc etc have to be the same. The red ring along isn't going to fool customers into paying extra anymore.

You can only speak for yourself. As far as myself is concerned, I think that the logo "Canon" means the foremost quality possible, and the red ring is almost the equivalent of the Holy Grail. You see, there's a reason why they say: You get what you pay for!!!!

And with the 16-35, 17-40 and 24-105, Canon means crap corners at the wide end.

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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2013, 05:26:53 PM »