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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2013, 04:09:36 PM »
... Canon does not have to justify their business decisions to you, even if you think it is lame.

No. And we don't have to justify making fun of Canon' poor business decisions and criticizing them for producing crap like white kiss cameras instead of gear that is at least fully competitive, not to mention innovative. And you lnow what: we don't even care for the well-known canon paid canon lobbyists and assorted canon fanboys on this forum, who will always rush to canon's defense, no matter how ridiculous and off the mark their newest product offerings may be. :-)

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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2013, 05:21:04 PM »
... Canon does not have to justify their business decisions to you, even if you think it is lame.

No. And we don't have to justify making fun of Canon' poor business decisions and criticizing them for producing crap like white kiss cameras instead of gear that is at least fully competitive, not to mention innovative. And you lnow what: we don't even care for the well-known canon paid canon lobbyists and assorted canon fanboys on this forum, who will always rush to canon's defense, no matter how ridiculous and off the mark their newest product offerings may be. :-)

So do you have proof it is a poor business decision, meaning in revenue not your desired piece of equipment.  This is also being marketed to a certain region of the world.  Where is this lack of competiveness you are claiming?  Again the expected answer requires cold hard facts.
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2013, 05:31:22 PM »
So do you have proof it is a poor business decision, meaning in revenue not your desired piece of equipment.  This is also being marketed to a certain region of the world.  Where is this lack of competiveness you are claiming?  Again the expected answer requires cold hard facts.

not at all. Proof is in the pudding. :-)
I don't owe you or any other Canon fanboy and Canon lobbyists a thing.
Get your cold facts yourself ... or wait until they materialize in CaNikon's next financial reports. Suit yourself. 

I'll just lean back and keep watching Canon's announcement.  But .. I'll continue to hold my wallet tight and my checkbook online banking account closed ... and will pass up on Canon's white kisses or any other sub-par stuff they may try to throw at me.

Until they go under or come up with an FF mirrorless the size of Sony's A7R with a better sensor (!), better IQ , better EVF and way better AF .. at less than 2000 Euros. And some nice ultracompact pancake prime lenses to go woth it. 20/4, 40/2.8 [got that already, so adapter will do] and a 85/2.0 IS.

Whatever comes first. Now go figure.
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2013, 07:15:02 PM »
So do you have proof it is a poor business decision, meaning in revenue not your desired piece of equipment.  This is also being marketed to a certain region of the world.  Where is this lack of competiveness you are claiming?  Again the expected answer requires cold hard facts.

not at all. Proof is in the pudding. :-)
I don't owe you or any other Canon fanboy and Canon lobbyists a thing.
Get your cold facts yourself ... or wait until they materialize in CaNikon's next financial reports. Suit yourself. 

I'll just lean back and keep watching Canon's announcement.  But .. I'll continue to hold my wallet tight and my checkbook online banking account closed ... and will pass up on Canon's white kisses or any other sub-par stuff they may try to throw at me.

Until they go under or come up with an FF mirrorless the size of Sony's A7R with a better sensor (!), better IQ , better EVF and way better AF .. at less than 2000 Euros. And some nice ultracompact pancake prime lenses to go woth it. 20/4, 40/2.8 [got that already, so adapter will do] and a 85/2.0 IS.

Whatever comes first. Now go figure.

Listen to this man Canon. You'll go bankrupt if he continues to hold his wallet tight.  ;D

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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2013, 10:58:36 PM »
White and black has become my favorite color scheme recently, I would absolutely love white bodies with black highlights as an alternative to the standard all black.
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2013, 12:50:07 AM »
White and black has become my favorite color scheme recently, I would absolutely love white bodies with black highlights as an alternative to the standard all black.


My cat also has a 'white body' with black highlights. He must be in fashion! :D
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2013, 06:13:49 AM »
White and black has become my favorite color scheme recently, I would absolutely love white bodies with black highlights as an alternative to the standard all black.


My cat also has a 'white body' with black highlights. He must be in fashion! :D
A pussy cat that "has a white body with black highlights" does not count ... unless it has a mighty Canon ;D
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2013, 06:18:46 AM »
... Canon does not have to justify their business decisions to you, even if you think it is lame.

No. And we don't have to justify making fun of Canon' poor business decisions and criticizing them for producing crap like white kiss cameras instead of gear that is at least fully competitive, not to mention innovative. And you lnow what: we don't even care for the well-known canon paid canon lobbyists and assorted canon fanboys on this forum, who will always rush to canon's defense, no matter how ridiculous and off the mark their newest product offerings may be. :-)
Please tell us who are the "well-known canon paid canon lobbyists on this forum"
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2013, 06:26:35 AM »
... Canon does not have to justify their business decisions to you, even if you think it is lame.

No. And we don't have to justify making fun of Canon' poor business decisions and criticizing them for producing crap like white kiss cameras instead of gear that is at least fully competitive, not to mention innovative. And you lnow what: we don't even care for the well-known canon paid canon lobbyists and assorted canon fanboys on this forum, who will always rush to canon's defense, no matter how ridiculous and off the mark their newest product offerings may be. :-)
Please tell us who are the "well-known canon paid canon lobbyists" ... "on this forum"
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2013, 10:06:45 AM »
... Canon does not have to justify their business decisions to you, even if you think it is lame.

No. And we don't have to justify making fun of Canon' poor business decisions and criticizing them for producing crap like white kiss cameras instead of gear that is at least fully competitive, not to mention innovative. And you lnow what: we don't even care for the well-known canon paid canon lobbyists and assorted canon fanboys on this forum, who will always rush to canon's defense, no matter how ridiculous and off the mark their newest product offerings may be. :-)
Please tell us who are the "well-known canon paid canon lobbyists on this forum"

If Canon is looking to pay lobbyists to write into forums, I'd like to send them my resume.
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2013, 10:11:25 AM »
So do you have proof it is a poor business decision, meaning in revenue not your desired piece of equipment.  This is also being marketed to a certain region of the world.  Where is this lack of competiveness you are claiming?  Again the expected answer requires cold hard facts.

not at all. Proof is in the pudding. :-)
I don't owe you or any other Canon fanboy and Canon lobbyists a thing.
Get your cold facts yourself ... or wait until they materialize in CaNikon's next financial reports. Suit yourself. 

I'll just lean back and keep watching Canon's announcement.  But .. I'll continue to hold my wallet tight and my checkbook online banking account closed ... and will pass up on Canon's white kisses or any other sub-par stuff they may try to throw at me.

Until they go under or come up with an FF mirrorless the size of Sony's A7R with a better sensor (!), better IQ , better EVF and way better AF .. at less than 2000 Euros. And some nice ultracompact pancake prime lenses to go woth it. 20/4, 40/2.8 [got that already, so adapter will do] and a 85/2.0 IS.

Whatever comes first. Now go figure.

Thanks for confirming my unstated point and suspicions.
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2013, 11:21:39 AM »
Get your cold facts yourself ... or wait until they materialize in CaNikon's next financial reports. Suit yourself. 

I'll just lean back and keep watching Canon's announcement.  But .. I'll continue to hold my wallet tight and my checkbook online banking account closed ... and will pass up on Canon's white kisses or any other sub-par stuff they may try to throw at me.

Do you live in Asia?  I don't think you do, and if not, perhaps it escaped your notice that Canon is not throwing the white Kiss at you.   You previously stated, "Mirrorless has sold horribly up to now, because products offered ranged between 'inadequate and horrible'."  It's true that dSLRs significantly outsell mirrorless cameras - for example, for Jan-Apr 2013, mirrorless accounted for 18.6% of interchangeable lens camera (ILC) sales worldwide.  However, mirrorless cameras are much more popular in Asia - for that same time period, mirrorless accounted for 28.4% of ILC sales in Asia, and 36.5% of sales in Japan (CIPA source data). 

As was stated previously, I expect that Canon knows more about their market demographics than you do.
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2013, 11:53:18 AM »
Please tell us who are the "well-known canon paid canon lobbyists on this forum"

Yes, inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2013, 12:02:23 PM »
White and black has become my favorite color scheme recently, I would absolutely love white bodies with black highlights as an alternative to the standard all black.


My cat also has a 'white body' with black highlights. He must be in fashion! :D
A pussy cat that "has a white body with black highlights" does not count ... unless it has a mighty Canon ;D

Hmmm I'm sad to say its 'canon' is rather tiny... :-\
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2013, 04:37:25 PM »
So do you have proof it is a poor business decision, meaning in revenue not your desired piece of equipment.  This is also being marketed to a certain region of the world.  Where is this lack of competiveness you are claiming?  Again the expected answer requires cold hard facts.

not at all. Proof is in the pudding. :-)
I don't owe you or any other Canon fanboy and Canon lobbyists a thing.
Get your cold facts yourself ... or wait until they materialize in CaNikon's next financial reports. Suit yourself. 

I'll just lean back and keep watching Canon's announcement.  But .. I'll continue to hold my wallet tight and my checkbook online banking account closed ... and will pass up on Canon's white kisses or any other sub-par stuff they may try to throw at me.

Until they go under or come up with an FF mirrorless the size of Sony's A7R with a better sensor (!), better IQ , better EVF and way better AF .. at less than 2000 Euros. And some nice ultracompact pancake prime lenses to go woth it. 20/4, 40/2.8 [got that already, so adapter will do] and a 85/2.0 IS.

Whatever comes first. Now go figure.

So let me get this straight, you're going to wait? For canon to bring out something better than Sony's A7R?
What if they bring out something on par to the A7R? What if by the time they bring out something on par to the A7R, and Sony comes up with A8R or the A9R... you still going to wait?

Out of curiosity, what system do you currently own?
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Re: Canon Japan Teases a White Kiss
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