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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2013, 07:06:41 PM »
might sell a few copies if they bring it at USD 299,- right at launch this time.

Me? No buy. Me wants FF sensor and EVF. :-)

It calls Sony A7 & A7R. Better sensor & better EVF. You being asking for this long time - WHY WAIT for Canon. I don't get it ::)
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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2013, 07:36:24 PM »
might sell a few copies if they bring it at USD 299,- right at launch this time.

Me? No buy. Me wants FF sensor and EVF. :-)

It calls Sony A7 & A7R. Better sensor & better EVF. You being asking for this long time - WHY WAIT for Canon. I don't get it ::)

And your canon lenses can even be adapted to you, if the mountain won't come to mohammed...

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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2013, 07:47:04 PM »
It calls Sony A7 & A7R. Better sensor & better EVF. You being asking for this long time - WHY WAIT for Canon. I don't get it ::)

I have Canon lenses and flashguns.  I'd like something easier to carry around than the 50D + 17-55 but I don't want to build another collection from scratch.  I'll probably end up with an M2 for portability and a second hand 7D for action shots.

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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2013, 08:18:40 PM »
The current M + 22mm almost fits in your pocket, I'm wondering by making it smaller will it be compact enough to slip into your jeans when walking around??

With a much faster AF this could be the perfect walkaround camera. Just hope we see a telephoto lens for it. Like a 55 - 200mm would be perfect.
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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2013, 09:49:22 PM »
It calls Sony A7 & A7R. Better sensor & better EVF. You being asking for this long time - WHY WAIT for Canon. I don't get it ::)

I have Canon lenses and flashguns.  I'd like something easier to carry around than the 50D + 17-55 but I don't want to build another collection from scratch.  I'll probably end up with an M2 for portability and a second hand 7D for action shots.

What do you know about m2?

If you plan to shoot M2 with EF-s lenses then why not shoot with 50D with EF-S. Big EF-S lenses on tiny mirrorless, that would take away primary purpose of mirrorless.

Assuming Canon going to release more pancakes like the 22mm to support their mirrorless system, then buying Canon mirrorless lenses is same as buying A7 + Zeiss  ::)

I'll take A7 FF mirrorles and Zeiss lenses in this case ;)


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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2013, 09:53:09 PM »
The current M + 22mm almost fits in your pocket, I'm wondering by making it smaller will it be compact enough to slip into your jeans when walking around??

With a much faster AF this could be the perfect walkaround camera. Just hope we see a telephoto lens for it. Like a 55 - 200mm would be perfect.

I'd like to happen as well but what can they do? The only thing stopping it is the lens bulge from the 22mm which by design you can't get rid of. Sounds like we both would've preferred something like the Ricoh GR or Nikon Coolpix A, but they are only thin because of the inbuilt retractable lens. That can't exactly happen with the EOS-M either. Don't get me wrong, I realise those example cameras are twice the price so I wouldn't buy them lol.

might sell a few copies if they bring it at USD 299,- right at launch this time.

Me? No buy. Me wants FF sensor and EVF. :-)

It calls Sony A7 & A7R. Better sensor & better EVF. You being asking for this long time - WHY WAIT for Canon. I don't get it ::)

lol it's just a CR habit to post an unrealistic wishlist  ;)
Smart thing would be to whinge about it AND get the camera that actually fits the bill.
Hurry up Canon and do something with your sensors! :P

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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2013, 10:09:19 PM »
It calls Sony A7 & A7R. Better sensor & better EVF. You being asking for this long time - WHY WAIT for Canon. I don't get it ::)

I have Canon lenses and flashguns.  I'd like something easier to carry around than the 50D + 17-55 but I don't want to build another collection from scratch.  I'll probably end up with an M2 for portability and a second hand 7D for action shots.

What do you know about m2?

If you plan to shoot M2 with EF-s lenses then why not shoot with 50D with EF-S. Big EF-S lenses on tiny mirrorless, that would take away primary purpose of mirrorless.

Assuming Canon going to release more pancakes like the 22mm to support their mirrorless system, then buying Canon mirrorless lenses is same as buying A7 + Zeiss  ::)

I'll take A7 FF mirrorles and Zeiss lenses in this case ;)

If the A7 and Zeiss combination was the same price as an EOS M2 plus the lens then it would be an easy choice.    The A7 would probably be around 3 times as expensive as an M2 (If the intro price is the same as the M1).  Judging from the original post the A7 may be outside the price range.  For me I've been considering picking up the first generation EOS M since it's been so heavily discounted.  If it was still around the original price I wouldn't even consider it.

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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2013, 10:34:17 PM »
It calls Sony A7 & A7R. Better sensor & better EVF. You being asking for this long time - WHY WAIT for Canon. I don't get it ::)

I have Canon lenses and flashguns.  I'd like something easier to carry around than the 50D + 17-55 but I don't want to build another collection from scratch.  I'll probably end up with an M2 for portability and a second hand 7D for action shots.

What do you know about m2?

If you plan to shoot M2 with EF-s lenses then why not shoot with 50D with EF-S. Big EF-S lenses on tiny mirrorless, that would take away primary purpose of mirrorless.

Assuming Canon going to release more pancakes like the 22mm to support their mirrorless system, then buying Canon mirrorless lenses is same as buying A7 + Zeiss  ::)

I'll take A7 FF mirrorles and Zeiss lenses in this case ;)

If the A7 and Zeiss combination was the same price as an EOS M2 plus the lens then it would be an easy choice.    The A7 would probably be around 3 times as expensive as an M2 (If the intro price is the same as the M1).  Judging from the original post the A7 may be outside the price range.  For me I've been considering picking up the first generation EOS M since it's been so heavily discounted.  If it was still around the original price I wouldn't even consider it.
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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2013, 10:59:44 PM »
I got a7 + zeiss 55mm on pre order for family everyday photos.

I use a 1D X + 24-70/2.8L II for those...
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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2013, 12:15:53 AM »
I got a7 + zeiss 55mm on pre order for family everyday photos.

I use a 1D X + 24-70/2.8L II for those...
If a7 works out as I planned, I might end up with just one 5d iii, 135,  70-200. Slowly switching to FF mirrorless. No need 12fps for every day photos. I do need high iso from ff. Better dr is a huge plus for landscape and pull up shadow shots
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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2013, 12:39:26 AM »
might sell a few copies if they bring it at USD 299,- right at launch this time.

Me? No buy. Me wants FF sensor and EVF. :-)

It calls Sony A7 & A7R. Better sensor & better EVF. You being asking for this long time - WHY WAIT for Canon. I don't get it ::)

But will it have better autofocus.  Sony is great about pushing out advanced electronics but they are slow at pushing out lenses too.  It's been that way since they bought Minolta.
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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2013, 03:12:29 AM »
But will it have better autofocus... 

have you used the EOS M?  is there anywhere else to go but up haha?

all else being the same, if they slapped the 70D sensor and AF tech into the mk II, something tells me it would still be a significant improvement over the current gen M
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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2013, 06:28:45 AM »
If a7 works out as I planned, I might end up with just one 5d iii, 135,  70-200. Slowly switching to FF mirrorless. No need 12fps for every day photos. I do need high iso from ff. Better dr is a huge plus for landscape and pull up shadow shots

Umm, well, if you believe DxO (and I'm not saying you necessarily should, but of course it's the oft quoted reference) the 5DIII and 6D have more DR than the D800 sensor (which seems likely to be a good guide for the a7r sensor doesn't it?) by ISO3200 so ...
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In fact, you can mount an argument that Canon LEADS the race in sensor tech, or at least the race for DR.  You just have to focus on higher ISOs (which isn't necessarily unreasonable depending on what you shoot).  There, that ought to stir up a few people!!   :o

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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2013, 07:00:54 AM »
Maybe Canon needs to delay M again as we will have NEX 7 successor next year  ;D

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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2013, 07:01:49 AM »
Anyone else sort of get the impression that the EOS-M is a camera than Canon thinks it needs to produce, rather than one it really wants to make? A competent (early AF issues aside) but thoroughly unremarkable camera that fields only three lenses, one of which isn't even available in North America...

The EOS-M looks like a sop to the sales department, who kept on banging on about the growth of mirrorless and declining compact camera sales in board meetings. I think Canon are hoping to tempt compact camera upgraders with the basic kit, flog them the 22mm f/2 when they realise it's too big to be pocketable with the 18-55mm zoom, then sell them the EF mount adaptor when they want a tele-zoom and find there are none available. At this point you have EOS-M owners who have bough into the regular lens line and can be upgraded to Canon DSLRs. This would be a great plan if Canon had got there first; now all the other camera manufacturers are busy flooding the market with full compact systems, Canon's reputation is not enough to sell EOS-M.

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Re: The Next EOS M in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2013, 07:01:49 AM »