"Yes we know, and we've said you can take millions of perfectly find landscapes shots with a 5D3, but that doesn't mean that someone might not be able to get something extra out of the A7R compared to the 5D3 at times and if someone wants that what the heck is the big problem?" — The "big problem" is that you repeatedly trash Canon for making deficient sensors when that simply isn't true. There is nothing wrong with wanting more from any brand. As I wrote in another thread, photographers can use absolutely more of everything a camera can do, no matter what camera they are using. So go ahead and wish for more DR if that is important to you (or simply buy the brand that offers it). But don't blame Canon for making deficient sensors when their sensors are perfectly good for a wide variety of tasks and meet the standards of some very demanding photographers (for years now). Moreover, photographers have dealt with limited DR ever since photography was invented. In the film era, Ansel Adams wrote about raising underexposed shadows and recovering (or failing to recover) blown highlights — but he didn't blame Kodak when he screwed up. He understood that the sensor (film) would always have limited DR and that exposure was always his responsibility. Indeed, he understood exposure within the DR as a creative/technical decision.
This thread was the A7R. And you jump in try to find every single way possible to minimize the camera or anything it might do for anyone.
Ansel Adams also worked hours in the lab trying to get around DR limitations and trying to come up with chemical baths and so on to as much as he could out of things and I bet you he'd be excited by this A7R. He did try to push tech further ahead.
And there is nothing wrong with trying to push Canon to catch up.
Why don't you just sell all your stuff and go back to the D30? You don't need that 5D3 AF that people pushed for do you? You don't need more than a couple MP? You don't need clean high ISO right? More fps? All garbage right and all those who pushed for 1 series AF in a smaller body were fools right? So dump all your euqipment and go back to the D30 and maybe sell your lenses as well, after all you can find thousands of examples of awesome photos on the net taken with nothing more than the 18-55 IS kit lens.
Bashing Canon for making deficient sensors is not exactly "pushing Canon to catch up". You're just misleading people to think that Canon makes deficient sensors.
And you're twisting my words again. I haven't tried to find ways to "minimize" the A7/A7r. On the contrary, I think the A7/A7r is a great
idea. I would love to use an A7/A7r and would love to see similar cameras from other manufacturers. As I've written before, it is amazing
to see the introduction of such a small full-frame system camera with AF. That said, I don't think the A7/A7r should be used as another excuse to bash Canon sensors. That's what you're doing. The sensor is just one part of the A7/A7r and I'm sure it's good. But it doesn't mean Canon makes deficient sensors. For some photographers, the big attraction of the A7/A7r will be that it's so amazingly small and can use almost any lens. They're not
looking to Sony to salvage their landscape photos until Canon makes a sensor with more DR. Canon already makes great sensors and photographers are doing great work with them. But apparently there are some sensor critics who can't seem to deal with dynamic range and eagerly look to Sony to save tons of photos for them.
Of course I value the 5D3 AF and all of the other engineering achievements that we put to good use. Don't imagine that they were brought about by anonymous "pushing" on a rumor forum. I'm sure Canon gets direct feedback from very skilled photographers and takes that into account when they prioritize research & development. I'm not saying photographers can't use more DR or anything else. As I've written before, photographers can use improvements in absolutely everything
a camera system can do, whether it's DR, AF, highest shutter speed, ergonomics, durability, responsiveness, battery life, battery size, viewfinder, wi-fi, flash, radio control, customizations, shutter blackout, frame rate, high & low ISO, auto ISO, lens quality, lens size, weather sealing, etc., etc., etc. Anything
you can think of can be improved, and any such improvement can certainly be put to good use. However, I reject this constant effort to convince people that Canon sensors are deficient just because photographers sometimes fail to expose a landscape properly or don't know how to deal with dynamic range.