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eml58

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Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #255 on: December 01, 2013, 07:40:56 PM »
I have read a few quite good examples of trolling here, but alongside every once in a while maybe you are missing some good points. ;-)

Diko, you may well be right, but it's a two way street, it may just be that your the one missing the point.

There's nothing wrong with having a wish list, I have several, I just don't expect that a Company like Canon/Nikon/Sony is going to give much thought to it, but that doesn't stop me living in hope and believing that all these Companies sooner or later end up at the same point, some sooner, some later, but they all end up with very similar pieces of Tech & equipment for the same Market, it's called good business.

Just pick one, large choice, buy the gear, enjoy.

Don't keep looking over your shoulder at what everyone else is doing, just leads back to CR and Posts of discontent.

And if that Green Machine has an Option to install a Canon, I'm in faster than greased lightning.
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Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #255 on: December 01, 2013, 07:40:56 PM »

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Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #256 on: December 01, 2013, 09:54:42 PM »
Is there perhaps a Sony Rumors Site that is a happy place for you?

We, the declining stills orientated market, are fortunate that the ideas they are moving towards are somewhat complimentary to our own "needs" for still based equipment, so far.

The customer only comes first if the company can sell the stuff they make and give their shareholders a reasonable return. If they can't they will try to find other customers, not different shareholders.

hehehe! Quite funny. Next suggestion will probably be to kneel down and beg to Canon "please, please give me a new stills-oriented camera."  ::)

no way!

In reality it is way easier for (almost all of) Canon's customers to turn around and find another supplier of excellent image capturing gear than it is for Canon to find "new customers" willing to pay inflated prices for fairly un-innovative products.
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Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #257 on: December 01, 2013, 10:23:58 PM »
Certain indications point to 40-45 MP with dual ISO. Upgrades to their Cinema line point to higher upgrades in hardware and firmware in new models. Dual sensors two sizes in one, two processors combining to cover 8K resolution and 3D  with dual pixels, auto phase and contrast detect with dual ISO. Will be kind of hard to beat. Betting though everything in focus is their goal with a function to blur what you want around subject, and more creative filters. So everything is in focus, you could zoooooom way, way out and its perfect in focus like the Canon Wonder Cam. Next line of labeling  Canon DC a1/ DUAL CAM advance 1. two sensors possible two different sizes. Sony is useing dual sensors and is Apple in their next phones. Dual lenses would be a heck of a killer a 12mm and a 100mm

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Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #258 on: December 01, 2013, 11:27:06 PM »
Certain indications point to 40-45 MP with dual ISO. Upgrades to their Cinema line point to higher upgrades in hardware and firmware in new models. Dual sensors two sizes in one, two processors combining to cover 8K resolution and 3D  with dual pixels, auto phase and contrast detect with dual ISO. Will be kind of hard to beat. Betting though everything in focus is their goal with a function to blur what you want around subject, and more creative filters. So everything is in focus, you could zoooooom way, way out and its perfect in focus like the Canon Wonder Cam. Next line of labeling  Canon DC a1/ DUAL CAM advance 1. two sensors possible two different sizes. Sony is useing dual sensors and is Apple in their next phones. Dual lenses would be a heck of a killer a 12mm and a 100mm

Assuming this post isn't some kind of joke...

Dual ISO won't happen. That is a ML discovery of a happy quirk in the design of Canon's readout system. There is no telling that Canon will use the same system in future bodies, and in fact, I personally hope they don't...the downstream amplifier and the use of a downstream, off-die ADC is a significant part of the reason why their low ISO read noise is so bad. Canon really needs to develop a modern sensor, with on-die ADC, and preferably digital readout...at which point, Dual ISO wouldn't even be an option, since there would be no need for the downstream amplifier.

I'd figure the chances of Canon actually employing MLs Dual ISO discovery are so vanishingly small, they barely qualify as a mathematic point.

I also don't see Canon employing any kind of light field technology any time soon. For one, Canon always develops their own technology, while light field technology is currently owned by someone else. Lytro's cameras have a LONG ways to go before light field even really becomes a generally viable technology as well, and I don't see them selling the technology any time soon.

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Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #259 on: December 07, 2013, 04:20:16 AM »
Certain indications point to 40-45 MP with dual ISO. Upgrades to their Cinema line point to higher upgrades in hardware and firmware in new models. Dual sensors two sizes in one, two processors combining to cover 8K resolution and 3D  with dual pixels, auto phase and contrast detect with dual ISO. Will be kind of hard to beat. Betting though everything in focus is their goal with a function to blur what you want around subject, and more creative filters. So everything is in focus, you could zoooooom way, way out and its perfect in focus like the Canon Wonder Cam. Next line of labeling  Canon DC a1/ DUAL CAM advance 1. two sensors possible two different sizes. Sony is useing dual sensors and is Apple in their next phones. Dual lenses would be a heck of a killer a 12mm and a 100mm

Assuming this post isn't some kind of joke...

Dual ISO won't happen. That is a ML discovery of a happy quirk in the design of Canon's readout system. There is no telling that Canon will use the same system in future bodies, and in fact, I personally hope they don't...the downstream amplifier and the use of a downstream, off-die ADC is a significant part of the reason why their low ISO read noise is so bad. Canon really needs to develop a modern sensor, with on-die ADC, and preferably digital readout...at which point, Dual ISO wouldn't even be an option, since there would be no need for the downstream amplifier.

I'd figure the chances of Canon actually employing MLs Dual ISO discovery are so vanishingly small, they barely qualify as a mathematic point.

I also don't see Canon employing any kind of light field technology any time soon. For one, Canon always develops their own technology, while light field technology is currently owned by someone else. Lytro's cameras have a LONG ways to go before light field even really becomes a generally viable technology as well, and I don't see them selling the technology any time soon.

Hate to agree, but have to.  Regarding Lytro...it's a gimmick designed by a college professor, and not much else.  I wonder if his patent is even licensed to him, or is it licensed to his school?  If the school owns the patent, where do the profits go?  Also appreciate you pointing out that dual ISO is a bandaid that takes advantage of Canon's flawed (or at the very least, inferior) sensor design approach. 

This does put a lot of pressure on Canon for that 2014 1-series body to use sensor tech that starts to head back in the right direction.

Globalphotobank, in my opinion serious photographers don't often have a use for selective focus and artificially blurred backgrounds, especially around subject matter (and especially if it's applied like a vignette or a grad filter).  Talk about bandaids, that's basically a cheap software trick that anyone can do on any digital photograph in post processing.  The results are quite silly...again in my opinion of course!  I suppose there's a good use for it, but I don't know of it. 

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Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #260 on: December 12, 2013, 12:54:36 PM »
A pro intimated to me that has seen / used the camera that its a 45MP sensor. He put it in a way that didnt infringe his NDA.
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Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #261 on: December 12, 2013, 02:38:05 PM »
A pro intimated to me that has seen / used the camera that its a 45MP sensor. He put it in a way that didnt infringe his NDA.
That's a spicy little tidbit.  Keep us posted.
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Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #261 on: December 12, 2013, 02:38:05 PM »