That is not what I was trying to say, at all. Carl, you are one of the most argumentative and unreasonable people on this forum, your level of discourse brings the entire community down.
It is not unreasonable to say that Canon will replace the 20mm f/2.8 in the near future with IS, if they are replacing the 85mm f/1.8 USM with an IS version. Price should be pretty comparable to the 24/28/35mm IS primes. My assumption of this future lens was in no way unrealistic.
Also, a stop faster lens means either: 1) a lower ISO for less noise, or 2) even lower light levels than the 24-105mm f/4L. I'm sure you can get sharp pictures at 24mm at 0.8 sec with a somewhat acceptable keeper rate, but a wider, 20mm lens should in-theory increase that keeper rate (especially with the newest IS version and a fixed focal length lens that they can really optimized its effectiveness). I'm not trying to convince you I'm right, but your tendency to denegrate fellow forum members is disturbing.
EDIT: Sorry if I misread the tone of your post, I just noticed the tongue smiley.
Frankly I am offended by your personal attack, just a bit...it seems like you just couldn't wait to lambast me. You were saving up obviously. The little tack on at the end, since you still left the rest in, is obviously just you trying to cover your ass a bit, while still letting me have both barrels. I'm not sure where your anger is coming from, and I don't recall saying you were being unrealistic...nor why you should take such a thing so personally in any case, even if that is how you took it. This is all just speculation about these lenses anyway!
Regarding the last comment about the Zeiss lens, that was definitely me JOKING...because it's about as realistic as resurrecting Marilyn Monroe from the grave, and attempting to make her forget all about JFK! (That's meant as a joke too, so don't go telling me he was your uncle or something!!) What I mean with all this is, I can wish for things too...I'd like a Zeiss lens, and then that carbon fiber hood that someone DIY'ed popped into my head, so I just threw it all together...and laughed.
I come here to learn, and to share. I've learned a lot! Sometimes I get into arguments with people. But that's life. I don't come here with the idea that I'm going to get along with, or please everyone. That's just not me. If I feel a certain way, then I defend how I feel, if it seems important. I do try to be polite, until given a reason not to.
To say "your level of discourse brings the entire community down"...is just harsh, uncalled for, and a lie...it really is. GO BACK AND READ ALL OF MY POSTS BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. You are in dire need of getting the hell over yourself...you are taking yourself too seriously! My level of discourse is appropriate at least over half the time, and especially here now. Sometimes I've been inappropriate and I apologized for it. But nobody's perfect, my God man!! Not even you...
If I have brought the entire CR "community" down in this thread, then wow I do apologize...but I just don't see it! You proclaiming it does not make it so, not by a mile...
I think my main interest in this thread was speculating, selfishly, about which of the lenses I would be interested in (85mm f/2 IS). There's no telling what 2014 holds, but I have a feeling there could be disappointment, along with gratitude...towards Canon. I don't claim to have any inside info though, just my two cents!
At some point it becomes time to sell and consolidate lenses, cameras, etc. I'm trying to do a bit of that now. There's not any one lens that's going to magically transform my photographic life...