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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2013, 09:08:06 AM »
Looking forward to this. I hope they slot above the 5D Mark III. Looking forward to unload my two 7D and 5D Mark II.
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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2013, 09:08:06 AM »

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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2013, 09:09:41 AM »
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<p><strong>Two new full frame cameras coming?<br />

</strong>We <a href=\"http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_rumours.html\" target=\"_blank\">see talk of two new full frame cameras</a> coming in 2014 with availability in the early part of 2015. It’s mentioned that the EOS 5D Mark III would move up the spec ladder once again, but wouldn’t be the camera for “total image quality”. That would be saved for studio based EOS-1 body that is coming next year.</p>
<p>There is no chance of an EOS-3D according to this report. Although medium format is “still an option”. This information apparently comes from a higher end dealer presentation that occurred in Japan.</p>
<p>This is the first mention we’ve seen for an EOS 5D Mark IV. If two new full frame cameras are on the horizon and one is an EOS-1DXs type of body, what could the other one be? I’m willing to wager the EOS 6D won’t be replaced before the EOS 5D Mark III or EOS-1D X.</p>
<p>I assume he above report doesn’t consider the Cinema EOS branded EOS-1D C as one of the “full frame” cameras.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href=\"http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_rumours.html\" target=\"_blank\">NL</a>]</p>
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The new high-MP 1D body and a 5DIV actually make for 2 new FF bodies. Did I miss something?

The 5D3 is from March 2012, a replacement in early 2015 is in line with the usual 3-year lifespan.

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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2013, 09:24:09 AM »
There is no medium format camera from Canon out for testing. Maybe not in development until today.
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But if I look on the camera market it is possible that we will see a mirrorless FF camera or a new video FF DSLR with CFast card slots in 2014.

Perhaps English is not your native language, but it sounds like you're claiming to have actual information about what Canon has in development and testing.   How can that be?

he is the CR oracle.. no real facts just misty bits of information. :)
and like all good oracles 50% of his predictions have some truth in it.

it´s like good guessing.  ;)
 

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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2013, 09:39:26 AM »
To get me upgrade to 5D Mark IV, Canon needs to have these:

1. One full stop better in high ISO
2. 8-10 fps (even when the battery at 3/4 or half left)
3. Tries not to sell @ $4000 from beginning, then, drops to $2500 few months later

That last point was completely avoidable, If you bought from BVI. :)

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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2013, 09:57:17 AM »
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but wouldn’t be the camera for “total image quality”. That would be saved for studio based EOS-1 body that is coming next year.

Great!!

Now at least we know that it isn't worth buying a new DSLR from Canon before that EOS-1 body is announced and to only buy DSLRs that are announced after it if we want better IQ.

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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2013, 10:21:04 AM »
I just need my 50mm F1.8 IS.  Please!!!!!!!!!! :D

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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2013, 10:33:41 AM »
congrats on the PhD- a great accomplishment.

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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2013, 10:33:41 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2013, 10:43:15 AM »
two new full frame cameras coming in 2014 with availability in the early part of 2015.
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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2013, 10:49:41 AM »
I am with you on this Dylan.  I am just trying landscape photog this week so I can see what many are saying about more DR (please no flame wars, but I do now see the point). Having used the camera almost since it came out, I am still trying to master it.  Hopefully by the time the IV comes out, I will have done so.  So my addition/question to you post is, beyond what we agree on, what else might be on the horizon that could make the IV great, that we didn't think of?  Hmmmm?

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To get me upgrade to 5D Mark IV, Canon needs to have these:

1. One full stop better in high ISO
2. 8-10 fps (even when the battery at 3/4 or half left)
3. Tries not to sell @ $4000 from beginning, then, drops to $2500 few months later
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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2013, 10:50:18 AM »
At this point, I'm completely satisfied with the MK3. What I'd like is some new lenses.

+1 ... Same here.
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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2013, 10:53:59 AM »
What is BVI?

To get me upgrade to 5D Mark IV, Canon needs to have these:

1. One full stop better in high ISO
2. 8-10 fps (even when the battery at 3/4 or half left)
3. Tries not to sell @ $4000 from beginning, then, drops to $2500 few months later

That last point was completely avoidable, If you bought from BVI. :)
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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2013, 10:54:11 AM »
Eos M Fullframe ?  ;)

If it does materialize, I guess AvTvM will be happy ... but then, maybe not because it will be made by Canon :P

oh yes, I would be very happy to see an EOS M with FF sensor from Canon any time soon.
As a matter of fact I am not anti Canon. I just criticize them for not being more innovative and not giving us better products today rather than just dishing out improvements only in ever so small increments, each of which costs a couple grant.  :o

After all, I do prefer the Canon EOS user interface over anything else I've tried so far from other manufacturers. It is really well done - physical layout, hardware control elements and menu system.
Wow, I guess I am a little too gentle with Canon today.  ;D

Now an EOS M ... hell yes, if it has all the good from the 6D [WiFi, GPS, more sensitive central AF field] AND everything good from the 5D III [AF-performance, fps] AND a 36 MP sensor AND 14 EV DR AND 1 EV better ISO 3200 than 5D II ... ah yes, and please totally silent operation - ideally with purely electronic global shutter and X-Sync down to 1/1000s AND not larger than Sony A7R ... AND not more expensive. hehe!  ;D
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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2013, 11:00:49 AM »
What is BVI?

To get me upgrade to 5D Mark IV, Canon needs to have these:

1. One full stop better in high ISO
2. 8-10 fps (even when the battery at 3/4 or half left)
3. Tries not to sell @ $4000 from beginning, then, drops to $2500 few months later

That last point was completely avoidable, If you bought from BVI. :)

I initially thought why the heck "British Virgin Islands"  ??? but then it struck me ... BigValueInc  ;)

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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2013, 11:57:31 AM »
Cinema FF in the mid price range (5Dc) would be nice. New 1D model is very likely. But I feel like Canon is sort of the Apple of the photog industry where it continuously pushes new technology, instead of developing around the old ones. Would like to see some epic glass come out so I'm not tempted to jump ship as I think Nikon is slightly better in that department.
I would like to see a FF with some more Dynamic range. Don't care for too many more megapixels because I think 22 on my 5D3 is enough. Low light on the 5D3 isn't bad really, even at 6,400 in my opinion, but I highly doubt I would upgrade at all for the next 3 yeas or so, which a 1D would be my most likely target, if I don't end up with a "D4s" or something, if the green screen tint issue in the D4 is no longer present.
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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2013, 12:19:47 PM »
...This is a NL rumor, so take it with a huge grain of salt.

Yes, and it's kind of garbled too.

Break it down:

The 5D IV will push toward higher specs. No Sh*t Sherlock. Did you think it would push toward lower specs? No information on when this would be released. Could be 2015, could be 2016, who knows. Just a random statement tossed in there.

Canon's new studio camera will be the one to maximize image quality Again, let's state the obvious. If it's a studio camera it better maximize image quality, else why make it?

There will be no 3D Of course not, Canon will never use the 3D designation unless they build a stereo camera. Too confusing.

By early 2015 there will be four full frame cameras Let's see: a 6D, a 5D, a 1Dx and a studio camera. Yep, that's four.

Two of which will be announced next year Okay, if they have three cameras now. They aren't replacing any of the three, but adding a fourth, where does the "two" come from. Either somebody is bad with math or one of the three could be updated. But which one?

My suspicion is that the 6D won't be updated for awhile says Keith

I’m willing to wager the EOS 6D won’t be replaced before the EOS 5D Mark III or EOS-1D X. says Craig

First off, neither Keith nor Craig are particularly good at predictions. No assessment of their ability to extract information from inside sources – there is a big difference. Craig has the best sources in the industry, and once a rumor hits CR2 or CR3 he's almost never wrong. I'm just saying that when it comes to personal opinions/predictions, the batting average doesn't seem to be any better than anyone else on this forum.

So, let's discount the idea that the 6D won't be replaced before the 5D or the 1D and put them all on equal footing.

Me, I'd bet on the 6D being updated first. There is a lot of headroom between the 6D and the 5D so Canon could throw a 70D/7D autofocus system into the 6D II without seriously impacting sales of the 5D or 1D. The 6D also seems like a prime candidate for the current dual pixel technology. I don't see 5D or 1D owners particularly caring about that until it shows some significant benefits beyond what it offers in the 70D.

The 1Dx is the oldest in the lineup, so it could be updated, but neither Canon nor Nikon like to update the flagship too frequently because the professional customer base just isn't that into frequent upgrades. Still, a late 2014 announcement with availability in 2015 is certainly possible.

Or, it could be the 5DIII. The only reason to update the 5DIII would be because I just bought one, so with my track record, it could get an update. But, honestly, I'm pretty hard pressed to see what they would update that would motivate buyers to upgrade. Especially since the current 5DIII has been a pretty phenomenal seller.

Bottom line, I'd be surprised to see any of these three updated, but my personal bet is the 6D. 
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Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2013, 12:19:47 PM »