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Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« on: December 02, 2013, 11:50:38 AM »

Canon EOS M2

Below are the rumored specs of the Canon EOS M2 that will be announced for CES 2014 in Las Vegas.


There is no mention of new lenses for the system.


Specifications



  • APS-C 18MP sensor

  • Hybrid CMOS AF II

  • AF Speed 2.3 times faster

  • AF Servo in Video Mode

  • Image processing engine DIGIC 5

  • 4.6fps burst rate

  • ISO range 100-12800 (25600 extended)

  • About a 10% smaller than the Canon EOS M

  • Wifi in camera

  • Can operate the camera with a smartphone.

  • Wireless image transfer to the smartphone


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Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« on: December 02, 2013, 11:50:38 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2013, 11:54:30 AM »
That was not too far off what we could expect I suppose ... I have tried to like these smaller cameras, but I always end up dragging the bigger DSLR along instead. The RX-1 almost tempted me though. But to be limited to one focal length is not very appealing.
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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2013, 11:55:10 AM »
a 18 MP sensor is unlikely i think.

why should canon produce a new 18 MP sensor with dual pixel AF when they have already such a 20 MP sensor?  makes not much sense.

and when that is wrong... then i guess the whole rumor is not much but hot air...

edit:

or wait.. i got this wrong i guess.  ???

they say they will put the same old 650D sensor in it?
not dual pixel... but hybrid cmos?

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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2013, 12:02:52 PM »
a 18 MP sensor is unlikely i think.

why should canon produce a new 18 MP sensor with dual pixel AF when they have already such a 20 MP sensor?  makes not much sense.

Where did you get that this has dual pixel AF? 

• APS-C 18MP sensor
• Hybrid CMOS AF II

Hybrid CMOS II ≠ DPAF.  The sensor described above is the one in the 700D/T5i and 100D/SL1 (which is different than the T4i/650D and EOS M sensor - those have the original Hybrid CMOS which is basically only the center of the frame, whereas Hybrid CMOS II covers a much larger area of the frame).

Some time back, the rumor was for two new models in the M lineup - a 'low end' one that is a little smaller than the current M and targeted at 'consumers', and a 'high end' one incorporating DPAF and coming a bit later.

This rumor sounds like the former, particularly with the smartphone integration stuff.
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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2013, 12:04:16 PM »
There is no mention of new lenses for the system.
To me, this is the more important thing. The US system has 2 lenses right now; and if I'm gonna put an adapter on the thing, I might as well just buy an SL1 or T51 and get similar specs/pricing.

Honestly, it'd probably be smarter of them to just drop mirrorless until they are ready to commit fully. A new EOS-M that doesn't come with a tele, some more primes, etc...don't see the point

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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2013, 12:04:45 PM »
why should canon produce a new 18 MP sensor with dual pixel AF when they have already such a 20 MP sensor?  makes not much sense.

and when that is wrong... then i guess the whole rumor is not much but hot air...

edit:

or wait.. i got this wrong i guess.  ???

they say they will put the same old 650D sensor in it?
not dual pixel... but hybrid cmos?

Not the 650D/700d sensor, but the 100D (SL1) one.
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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2013, 12:09:57 PM »
Hybrid CMOS II ≠ DPAF.  The sensor described above is the one in the 700D/T5i and 100D/SL1 (which is different than the T4i/650D and EOS M sensor - those have the original Hybrid CMOS which is basically only the center of the frame, whereas Hybrid CMOS II covers a much larger area of the frame).

The 700D doesn't have Hybrid CMOS AF II, it uses the exact same sensor as the 650D. Other than cosmetic differences and the kit lens, the cameras are identical.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2013, 12:09:57 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2013, 12:14:02 PM »
I wanted the 70D sensor. I guess I'll have to wait for the M3.

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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2013, 12:14:21 PM »
yeah i first misread the sensor information.
i always thought they will use the latest (best) APS-C sensor for the M2.  ::)
 
why only 4.6 FPS?

other mirrorless cameras have much faster burst rates.
in fact the burst rates are one thing that i really like about mirroless cameras.


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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2013, 12:20:10 PM »
Yawn.  The addition of WiFi is the only thing of significance here.  Nothing interesting for me.
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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2013, 12:20:56 PM »
Hybrid CMOS II ≠ DPAF.  The sensor described above is the one in the 700D/T5i and 100D/SL1 (which is different than the T4i/650D and EOS M sensor - those have the original Hybrid CMOS which is basically only the center of the frame, whereas Hybrid CMOS II covers a much larger area of the frame).

The 700D doesn't have Hybrid CMOS AF II, it uses the exact same sensor as the 650D. Other than cosmetic differences and the kit lens, the cameras are identical.

You're right - thanks for the correction!
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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 12:26:02 PM »
•  AF Speed 2.3 times faster

2.3 times faster…but, faster than what?  The EOS M at launch, or the EOS M with the v2 firmware?   IIRC, Canon mentioned that the v2 firmware for the M would deliver AF speeds that were 2.3x faster.  This spec for an M2 sounds a little too coincidental to me...
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Re: Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 12:48:39 PM »
why only 4.6 FPS?

other mirrorless cameras have much faster burst rates.
in fact the burst rates are one thing that i really like about mirroless cameras.

I have a p/s with a burst mode of 11.5 fps, but if you reduce the image size it will let you get away with 60fps. I have heard of other p/s that do bursts of 120fps..... 4.6 is slow.....
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 12:48:39 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2013, 12:53:01 PM »
I REALLY hope this is a bad rumor...

I mean, I absolutely LOVE my M-because it's so much fun and it got me back into photography-but I was definitely anticipating an M2 that would push Canon into the OM-D E-M1/5, GX7 or EP-5 level of enthusiast mirrorless camera WITH a 70D sensor inside.. That would have been an instant buy for me.

This is...not worth upgrading for..

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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 01:01:17 PM »
Hmm...I think it would be a real mistake for Canon to make use of their 18mp sensor...AGAIN. That thing is becoming the laughing stock of the digital photography world...it's tainted, and would be a real negative for Canon to slap the "same old sensor" into "another camera"...again.

The other specs seem piss-poor for a mirrorless camera, even an entry-level one. If nothing more than for their own reputation, I hope Canon releases something better than what this rumor indicates...

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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 01:01:17 PM »