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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2013, 07:32:47 AM »
Ok, the EOS M Pro - when it gets released, if ever.


I'll be all over it, and the M->EF adaptor.

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I currently own a G10, with a 270EX flash mounted on it constantly, that I'd like to replace with Canon's answer to the Fuji X-E2, Panasonic GF7 and Sony NEX-6. The G10 still takes great pictures though, if there's enough light.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2013, 12:25:32 PM »
I know you've mentioned not wanting a prime lens. But you've also mentioned IQ as being a big factor. I would consider a used Fuji x100. You can find them for around 500-550. A little bit above your stated threshold. However, the sensor is much better (and larger) than most of the other options mentioned thus far. The fixed 23/2 = 35ish and is a very good lens. With the updated firmware, AF is good enough for most applications.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2013, 02:54:33 AM »
I know you've mentioned not wanting a prime lens. But you've also mentioned IQ as being a big factor. I would consider a used Fuji x100. You can find them for around 500-550. A little bit above your stated threshold. However, the sensor is much better (and larger) than most of the other options mentioned thus far. The fixed 23/2 = 35ish and is a very good lens. With the updated firmware, AF is good enough for most applications.

Thanks for the suggestion, it's a fine looking camera.  More than I want to spend, and as you say, it's a prime lens.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2013, 02:58:12 AM »
So, my question from the original post, again: Is the sensor in the Samsung NX300 or NX1000, the same sensor as found in the Sony RX100?  Really the NX1000 is more appealing to me, as it is sale-priced down to around $355, including a 20-50 zoom lens (the NX300 is about the same price as RX100).  Is this not also the same sensor as found in one of the Sony Nex models?
The RX100 has a 2.7x crop sensor (so called 1", same size as in the a Nikon 1 range), and Samsung ILC's have 1.5x crop APS-C sensors. I have a vague memory that Samsung make their own sensors, but don't quote me on this.

Thank you, I plead ignorance here!  They shouldn't be allowed to call it "1 inch", because if it is 2.7x crop, that is smaller than "four thirds" format, which is smaller than 1 inch, even diagonally...is it not?  It sounds like the Samsung does have a full aps-c size sensor, though.  I guess I need to research it more, if they make their own sensors, then the quality might not be as good.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2013, 02:59:30 AM »
If you don't need macro, the Canon G1x is a very good compact camera

It's above my price range, and the zoom has limited range.  I know it's a nice camera, though.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2013, 03:01:28 AM »
I've been impressed with the m4/3 cameras. I bought a Panasonic g5 for $299 and it worked great. The only thing I didn't like was that it didn't have real time exposure preview in M mode, so I returned it. I am currently saving up for an OM-D instead. I use a 5d3 for my main camera and for professional work, but it's so big and heavy to carry around all of the time. I found that the m4/3 has extremely small and light cameras and lenses, and the image quality isn't much behind aps-c. And for non-tracking AF, the focusing is magnificent. But you will have the tracking problem with any of the other mirror less cameras you are considering.

Oh, and almost all of the m4/3 cameras have real hot shoes to mount flashes and radio triggers if needed.

Good advice.  However, I noticed just today that Olympus is rumored to be pulling out of the camera business, or at least is not going to sell cameras in the USA starting in 2014.  Maybe this only applies to their compact camera line, I don't know.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2013, 03:03:07 AM »
Ok, the EOS M Pro - when it gets released, if ever.


I'll be all over it, and the M->EF adaptor.

+1

I currently own a G10, with a 270EX flash mounted on it constantly, that I'd like to replace with Canon's answer to the Fuji X-E2, Panasonic GF7 and Sony NEX-6. The G10 still takes great pictures though, if there's enough light.

And what is Canon's answer to the Fuji X-E2?

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2013, 03:03:07 AM »

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2013, 03:07:12 AM »
Love my Fuji X10. Versatile, great quality, cool retro looks. Have it all pimped out with a leather half-case and a soft release. Fun camera; nice for traveling light and/or very unobtrusive street photography.
Kinda big for a pocket, but rides well in my Think Tank Retrospective5, which I use as a purse.

Interesting looking camera.  I've been vaguely aware of these.  Did it use the same sensor as the XF1?  Amazon no longer has any new units, and the used ones are around $300.  The zoom range is limited but the aperture is faster than average.  How well do you like the viewfinder?

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2013, 11:39:35 AM »
The viewfinder is an old-school optical one, which I have used before. If you compensate for the parallax it is fine. The only issue I had was mounting a filter to the lens, which is about a 49.5mm thread.
Small sensor, but enough image-enhancing technology that the output is great. It also has a silent mode, with no shutter noise or lights at all.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2013, 12:35:25 PM »
Ok, the EOS M Pro - when it gets released, if ever.


I'll be all over it, and the M->EF adaptor.

+1

I currently own a G10, with a 270EX flash mounted on it constantly, that I'd like to replace with Canon's answer to the Fuji X-E2, Panasonic GF7 and Sony NEX-6. The G10 still takes great pictures though, if there's enough light.

And what is Canon's answer to the Fuji X-E2?

Nada. Zilch. Nothing remotely close.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2013, 03:37:46 PM »
Thanks again to all who replied, and I hope you are having nice holidays! 

I'm still on the fence about what I should get next.  Ideally I want something that can record in RAW, but that has more than 12MP. 

My SX150IS does quite well, until you compare it to "real cameras".  At ISO 200 and slightly under-exposed compensation (to keep from blowing out brightly lit daytime subjects)...at the pixel level it is just very coarse.  It's fine for 11x14 or especially 8x10 and smaller at either 240 or 300 ppi...but if I ever wanted to print larger than that, it would be marginal quality.  I've done 16x20 images in the past at 240 ppi, but that is absolutely as large as it can go, and the quality of the noise and artifacts (even after much processing) is less than I would like.

Do any of you have an opinion on the M-4/3 Panasonic DMC-GX1?  I notice it's been replaced by newer models that cost a lot more, with rangefinder style EVF's for like $750 and up (apparently jumping on the Fuji/old school rangefinder form-factor bandwagon...)

It seems to me that if a GX1 could be purchased for $250 body only, or $350 with a lens...that would be ideally what I'm looking for.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2013, 04:03:04 PM »
sony rx100.

for me there is/was no alternative.
all the system cameras (m43, fuji etc.) are not really pocketable.

i thought about the GM1. that one has a small body.. but with lens it´s still to big.
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2013, 04:17:29 PM »
My favorite compact camera is an Olympus TG-830. For me, submersible is a major requirement.... If you are going for a compact camera, why not get something really different from a DSLR?
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2013, 04:18:18 PM »
The EOS-M - for two reasons - superior IQ, and even more because it has a real user interface.  It's an EOS - you can pull it out of the box and be familiar with 99% of it's functions without reading the manual.  After years of digging through insanely crappy menu systems (Sony and Panasonic  >:(), and looking for advanced features (1/60-1/200s flash sync) that didn't exist (Canon compacts), it's perfect.

You can quibble about a million things with it (all compacts suck in one way or another), but it's cheap right now and for Canon users, it's just like picking up your SLR.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2013, 06:15:06 PM »
Id go with the rx100. I use one as backup to my 5d3. For still landscapes sometimes I can barely tell the difference. Rx100 is the best compact I've ever used. Plus it's a "compact" ie you can still fit it in your pocket; unlike many compact system cameras.

Now the rx100 mk ii is out the mk i is going cheaper.
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2013, 06:15:06 PM »