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Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« on: December 03, 2013, 09:24:07 PM »
Hello all, hope you're having a great holiday season!

I am on the fence, can't decide what to buy next.  (I know I want the 70-300L, but only at a good price.)

Pardon my long-winded-ness.  You're welcome to just skim over this and focus on the parts in bold, or else not read it and just tell about your favorite compact camera(s).

I recently bought a small powershot camera as a gift, refurbished via Canon's website.  So far I think it will work well, and for approx. $49.50 including tax and free shipping, I thought why not take a chance?  It might get some rough treatment, and very likely will get scratched up, so that's why I didn't want to spend more.  I can't believe the little viewfinder zooms!  And the tiny lens is f/2.8 at the wide end, faster than my SX150IS.

I guess my question is, is there a viable cheaper alternative to the Sony RX100?  (The goal being a somewhat pocketable compact camera with very good image quality).  I notice the Samsung NX300 appears to have the same sensor, as does the (perhaps older?) NX1000...which seems to be approaching "nice price" level, close to $350 new via amazon. If this is the same sensor as in the RX100, then that seems like a lot of image quality for the money.   I notice the white color version of the NX300 is $50 cheaper than the other colors, as well as the Sony RX100, at $499. 

It's likely the NX1000, as a camera, is somehow no good, but I thought I would ask the opinion of the smartest and most insane camera people I know of, so I am posting this here!  :P

I will admit that, given the large 20-50 lens that comes with it...it makes it a lot less pocket-able than the RX100.  So that's not good.

Ideally I would like to spend a good bit less than $500.  I figure it's either this, or a Canon Rebel T5i refurb body (as a "backup" to my 6D) for $419 (if any more magically become available at that price)...or perhaps both a Rebel and a compact camera...or neither?

For a while I thought the Pentax K-01 looked interesting, but no longer.  In the past I've owned the Nikon P7000 (which I felt was better than the G12 or G13, given the longer zoom and the lighter weight...and the 40% cheaper pricetag).  Also I owned the Sigma DP2.  The Sigma could have fantastic image quality, but I was happy to churn out about 6000 images and then sell it a year and a half later.  Recently I printed a lot of 16x20 images on metallic paper, and the ones from the DP2 are mind-blowing!   I used PR 7.5 to scale them, but PS would have done about as good.

I would like to own the DP series Merrill camera(s), but that's just a lot of money for a pocket camera, for me right now.  Especially considering I've spent like $3500 to $4000 on cameras and lenses over the last year or so...which is huge money to me!  Obviously I plan to sell a couple of those lenses...

The only compact camera I have now is the SX150IS.  Laugh if you must, but I absolutely enjoy the ergonomics.  Admittedly it's a tiny sensor and there's no RAW capture, and it's "only" 14.1 MP within that small sensor.  But from ISO 200 and below, it's printable to 16x20.  That's a lot of camera for $135 new (or the current refurb price of what, $80?  $70?).  I've made money with this camera...Oh, and I almost forgot the image stabilization.  In my opinion it's approaching 5 stops, at least at the telephoto end.

I also came across the Fuji XF1 via amazon at only $199 (originally it was like $500).  However, having read about its problems, I decided not to bite.  I highly doubt its sensor compares to the aps-c one in the Sony RX100...since it's smaller, etc.

The reason I don't mention the G15, is because it seems like the image quality is low for even the discounted price of around $299.  I also don't like that its zoom range is so short.  If I'm going to give up a wide range zoom, then the image quality needs to be a couple of levels above the G15.

I'm most grateful for your thoughts and input!
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Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2013, 03:51:46 PM »
88 reads and no comments?  Come on, somebody share your opinion.  What's your favorite compact camera?

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2013, 07:27:34 PM »
Ok, the EOS M Pro - when it gets released, if ever.


I'll be all over it, and the M->EF adaptor.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2013, 09:29:41 PM »
88 reads and no comments?  Come on, somebody share your opinion.  What's your favorite compact camera?

Current compact cameras at home: Sony RX1 + Fuji X100s.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2013, 10:53:19 PM »
Not what you wanted to hear, but it's the EOS M for $300 for me.  Familiar Canon UI and APS-C performance at a good value.  Touchscreen is nice, lenses and camera that fit in jacket pockets, same RAW workflow.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2013, 11:00:04 PM »
The answer to your question is the EOS-M, whether you choose to go that route or not is the debate.

So why don't you want the M is the quicker thing to talk about.
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 12:20:43 AM »
I really didnt understand if you want to have a RX100 or not.
So if yes: as the Mk2 of it is the actual model, the Mk1 is available for ~ €400, must be around $400, 500.
I don't buy the new one because I like it smaller and lighter then the Mk2, SO:
why not the RX100?

It is my favorite pocketable. Ratio Size/IQ unbeatable .
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 12:20:43 AM »

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2013, 03:31:41 AM »
Thanks to everyone who finally decided to respond!  So I gather the EOS M is popular.  I thought the consensus on it was that it sucked?  Reasons why I don't want it?  I could get a Rebel with the same sensor for not much more money, so it seems like a waste.  The M can mount EF lenses, but it requires an adaptor...so I think for similar money I would rather have a T4i or T5i refurb. 

For a compact camera for myself, I really would prefer either something with a captive lens (perhaps with a moderately long zoom anywhere from 5x to 18x), or else something with superior IQ to the EOS M...such as the RX100...or at least the sensor that's in it (I assume it's superior because it's an aps-c sensor from one of the Nex models, is it not?)

Reasons I don't want the RX100?  It's over $500, from what I have seen.  It's been out what, over a year, and still it's not fallen below $500.  The Nex models are similarly priced.  I absolutely hate the ergonomics of the Nex series, though.

So, my question from the original post, again: Is the sensor in the Samsung NX300 or NX1000, the same sensor as found in the Sony RX100?  Really the NX1000 is more appealing to me, as it is sale-priced down to around $355, including a 20-50 zoom lens (the NX300 is about the same price as RX100).  Is this not also the same sensor as found in one of the Sony Nex models?

If the EOS M fell to around $200 I would consider it...but the only lens I have that would probably work on it without an adaptor is the 40mm pancake.  Might not even work on it, I don't know.  That's the only lens that would make it relatively pocketable...but I don't want to be limited to one lens, that is a prime.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2013, 12:13:54 PM »
Canon G1X ... not really compact but I mostly wear cargo pants while not at work, so I have no issues with its size ... it is definitely a lot more compact than all any of my other camera/lens combos (with the exception of EOS-M + 22 ... but it has limited range).
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2013, 12:32:05 PM »
So, my question from the original post, again: Is the sensor in the Samsung NX300 or NX1000, the same sensor as found in the Sony RX100?  Really the NX1000 is more appealing to me, as it is sale-priced down to around $355, including a 20-50 zoom lens (the NX300 is about the same price as RX100).  Is this not also the same sensor as found in one of the Sony Nex models?
The RX100 has a 2.7x crop sensor (so called 1", same size as in the a Nikon 1 range), and Samsung ILC's have 1.5x crop APS-C sensors. I have a vague memory that Samsung make their own sensors, but don't quote me on this.
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2013, 12:35:50 PM »
So, my question from the original post, again: Is the sensor in the Samsung NX300 or NX1000, the same sensor as found in the Sony RX100?  Really the NX1000 is more appealing to me, as it is sale-priced down to around $355, including a 20-50 zoom lens (the NX300 is about the same price as RX100).  Is this not also the same sensor as found in one of the Sony Nex models?

Perhaps you should try that question on a Sony/Samsung forum.  I don't think people here would without the answer if they knew it.

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2013, 01:17:38 PM »
If you don't need macro, the Canon G1x is a very good compact camera

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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2013, 01:35:20 PM »
If you don't need macro, the Canon G1x is a very good compact camera
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2013, 02:04:21 PM »
I've been impressed with the m4/3 cameras. I bought a Panasonic g5 for $299 and it worked great. The only thing I didn't like was that it didn't have real time exposure preview in M mode, so I returned it. I am currently saving up for an OM-D instead. I use a 5d3 for my main camera and for professional work, but it's so big and heavy to carry around all of the time. I found that the m4/3 has extremely small and light cameras and lenses, and the image quality isn't much behind aps-c. And for non-tracking AF, the focusing is magnificent. But you will have the tracking problem with any of the other mirror less cameras you are considering.

Oh, and almost all of the m4/3 cameras have real hot shoes to mount flashes and radio triggers if needed.
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2013, 03:38:52 PM »
Love my Fuji X10. Versatile, great quality, cool retro looks. Have it all pimped out with a leather half-case and a soft release. Fun camera; nice for traveling light and/or very unobtrusive street photography.
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Re: Your favorite compact camera as of the holidays 2013?
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