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How Much the PRO make money ?
« on: December 10, 2013, 02:46:36 PM »
Dear Friends.
I just copy this Link from our CR member ( I forget the Name of the Author and the Post Name), But It is a great IDEAS , to know average  the Income of the Real  Wedding Photographers :

http://petapixel.com/2012/01/26/why-wedding-photographers-prices-are-wack/

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How Much the PRO make money ?
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Re: How Much the PRO make money ?
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2013, 03:27:23 PM »
Without reading your link, I can confidently say that salesman ship is the biggest factor in making money.  A successful photographer is selling himself as a capable photographer who will deliver the results you want. 
 
Just like Real Estate salesmen and automobile salesmen, the really good ones can pull down fantastic salaries.  Obviously, you have to deliver, but otherwise, its salesmanship.
 
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Re: How Much the PRO make money ?
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2013, 04:04:50 PM »
I think you would need to define what a "real" Wedding Photographer is.
I think depending on what definition you go with they may make very little on average.


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Re: How Much the PRO make money ?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 06:24:04 AM »
If you're paying $15k tax on such an income, you've seriously got to consider moving to another country.  No wonder there is so much interest in the TEA Party.  In Australia, with those figures, you'd pay no tax (depending on assumptions on depreciating camera gear).   Worst case scenario, $2k tax.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 07:23:32 AM »
If you're paying $15k tax on such an income, you've seriously got to consider moving to another country.  No wonder there is so much interest in the TEA Party.  In Australia, with those figures, you'd pay no tax (depending on assumptions on depreciating camera gear).   Worst case scenario, $2k tax.


Agreed...on $50k of income, there's no way your paying $15k in taxes unless your tax person is clueless.

Also agree big time with Mt Spokane....salesmanship and very good work combined together would make a great photographer a lot of money.
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Re: How Much the PRO make money ?
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 07:26:22 AM »
Without reading your link, I can confidently say that salesman ship is the biggest factor in making money.

Indeed, and since I have read the link I'd say the photog in question doesn't seem to have enough of it because he writes details about his "need to have a new pair of shoes every season". It's still very interesting for people wanting to go pro though.

Of all the items in his list I would only find a few convincing from a customer's perspective:
* The cost of the material used (paper, ink, frame, ...)
* The labor fee for a second shooter
* The time required before (competent consultation) and after (postprocessing) the shot
* The cost of the gear (computer/camera) to do these shots and maintaining it (not insuring, mind you)

Still, even with these it's probably hard to "subjectively" justify a $3000 price tag - but everything else is his problem and he can take it or leave it, at least in theory you could do without a car, "small house", insurance, lawyer and website.

Last not least, not (wealthy) enough people marrying and the seasonal character is as it is. Telling in essence that a customer has to pay for you doing nothing in the off-season just won't do the trick - you could still pack groceries or deliver newspapers.... not that I'd favor this, but there you are.
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Re: How Much the PRO make money ?
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 10:50:20 AM »
Dear Friends.
I just copy this Link from our CR member ( I forget the Name of the Author and the Post Name), But It is a great IDEAS , to know average  the Income of the Real  Wedding Photographers :

http://petapixel.com/2012/01/26/why-wedding-photographers-prices-are-wack/

Surapon

PS. Photos below are my job at the wedding ceremony.


Without reading the link, I made $350 for 1hr shooting kids playing soccer ;D
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Re: How Much the PRO make money ?
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 01:04:27 PM »
If you're paying $15k tax on such an income, you've seriously got to consider moving to another country.  No wonder there is so much interest in the TEA Party.  In Australia, with those figures, you'd pay no tax (depending on assumptions on depreciating camera gear).   Worst case scenario, $2k tax.

Running my small business, I can agree that $15K tax on a $50,000 gross is way out of line, if those numbers are accurate, the photographer needs a accountant, she should be paying $0 tax.
 
Most likely, she has a $250,000 gross, and after the usual business deductions, deprecation, etc has a profit of $50,000 but pays a alternative minimum $15,000 tax which is imposed for those where the high number of deductions hides too much income.  I get hit with the minimum tax some years, but even on $250K gross, I pay maybe $1,500 tax.
 
Either way, something is wrong with the picture.

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Re: How Much the PRO make money ?
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 01:04:27 PM »