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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2013, 12:06:24 PM »
35 L II and the 50 f1.8 IS  8)
+1
Could also be update of 135L, but 35L is in more need IMO.
Really? I use my 35L day in day out for professional weddings and it's an amazing performer. Sure it could do with a warm over but it's not going to make a huge difference over the current model. Sure, better AF in lower light, newer coatings and weather sealing would be nice...but don't be fooled, it's one of the finest picture taking optics in Canon's catalogue. 

Really.  If I need f/1.4 for creative (DoF) reasons, I reach for the 35L...for everything else, the 24-70/2.8L II is better.

I think Im going to puke if one of those lenses aren't a tack sharp UWA-zoom lens.

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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2013, 12:06:24 PM »

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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2013, 12:26:57 PM »
Good to hear. I'm a photograher not a videographer.
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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2013, 01:32:27 PM »
i hope for a new 100-400mm.

will buy one as soon as it´s out (and when it´s not over 2500 euro  ::)).

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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2013, 02:16:39 PM »
35 L II and the 50 f1.8 IS  8)
+1
Could also be update of 135L, but 35L is in more need IMO.
Really? I use my 35L day in day out for professional weddings and it's an amazing performer. Sure it could do with a warm over but it's not going to make a huge difference over the current model. Sure, better AF in lower light, newer coatings and weather sealing would be nice...but don't be fooled, it's one of the finest picture taking optics in Canon's catalogue. 

Really.  If I need f/1.4 for creative (DoF) reasons, I reach for the 35L...for everything else, the 24-70/2.8L II is better.

I think Im going to puke if one of those lenses aren't a tack sharp UWA-zoom lens.

Keep a bucket handy...    ;)
I believe that the truth for 35 1.4 is somewhere in between. It is a good lens but for the performance at the edges. In addition it has lots of coma although the latter bothers only the astrophotographers. It is a pitty that Canon ultra bright wide (35mm 1.4L and 24mm 1.4L II)  fast lenses have lots of coma...
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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2013, 02:18:13 PM »
i hope for a new 100-400mm.

will buy one as soon as it´s out (and when it´s not over 2500 euro  ::)).

Yeah, I'm anxious for the 100-400L II as well.  I love my 100-400L, but it's an old design and a new one with greatly improved IQ is high on my list of "want that!" :D
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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2013, 02:28:07 PM »
35 L II and the 50 f1.8 IS  8)
+1
Could also be update of 135L, but 35L is in more need IMO.
Really? I use my 35L day in day out for professional weddings and it's an amazing performer. Sure it could do with a warm over but it's not going to make a huge difference over the current model. Sure, better AF in lower light, newer coatings and weather sealing would be nice...but don't be fooled, it's one of the finest picture taking optics in Canon's catalogue. 

Really.  If I need f/1.4 for creative (DoF) reasons, I reach for the 35L...for everything else, the 24-70/2.8L II is better.

I think Im going to puke if one of those lenses aren't a tack sharp UWA-zoom lens.

Keep a bucket handy...    ;)

That sounds very mechanical.  The 35L has a certain feel,  a certain love. When you go with it, you know it's a special moment and it's going to give you something special back.

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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2013, 03:36:20 PM »
Development Announcements usually don't make sense.  The only practical use for them is to hurt other companies sales, for example, a 300-600mmL might put a damper on the Tamron lens sales.
 
Far too often, development announcements hurt your own sales, and if something goes wrong, you look incompetent.

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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2013, 03:59:42 PM »
35 L II and the 50 f1.8 IS  8)

+1

Could also be update of 135L, but 35L is in more need IMO.

+1 again  8) These 35 and 50 mm lenses are direly needed to upgrade Canon's lens line-up.

I'm in agreement here.  These are both holes that need quick plugging, particularly considering that the Sigma is ending up in a lot of bags, and, for others of us, the new 35mm f/2 IS is actually in many ways superior to the current 35L.  It is my most recent addition.

Count me in for wanting the new 50mm.  I don't have an AF 50mm in my kit right now because I was never blown away by the (non L) 50mm choices.  I have owned and then sold two copies each of the 50mm f/1.8 and 1.4.  I have never bought the 50L because of both its own shortcomings and high price.  I make do with some vintage options (Takumar and Helios), and really enjoy those lenses.  But for a lot of work AF is really needed.
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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2013, 04:21:33 PM »
I also want a high quality ultra-wide prime. No more ultra-wide zooms, please, unless they're great at the wide end.  Zooms are always going to compromise somewhere somehow, and if Canon came up with something really incredible there will an incredibly high price tag on it. A nice compact and affordable prime between 16 and 20mm with edge to edge razor sharpness, little distortion,  and manageable light falloff at normal landscape apertures would be very welcome in my camera bag. A lens like that is also a gaping hole in Canon's lens line up.

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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2013, 04:57:41 PM »
35 L II and the 50 f1.8 IS  8)

+1

Could also be update of 135L, but 35L is in more need IMO.

+1 again  8) These 35 and 50 mm lenses are direly needed to upgrade Canon's lens line-up.

I'm in agreement here.  These are both holes that need quick plugging, particularly considering that the Sigma is ending up in a lot of bags, and, for others of us, the new 35mm f/2 IS is actually in many ways superior to the current 35L.  It is my most recent addition.

Count me in for wanting the new 50mm.  I don't have an AF 50mm in my kit right now because I was never blown away by the (non L) 50mm choices.  I have owned and then sold two copies each of the 50mm f/1.8 and 1.4.  I have never bought the 50L because of both its own shortcomings and high price.  I make do with some vintage options (Takumar and Helios), and really enjoy those lenses.  But for a lot of work AF is really needed.

+1

Although I never use AF, I am also waiting for a great modern fast 50mm. The 50L is too expensive for me, and the 50 1.4 and 50 1.8 are too weak in term of build quality and handling IMO. The Zeiss 50mm 1.4 wide apertures performance aren't good enough for the price, although stopped down, there's nothing to complain about. The 55mm, although spectacular, is really out of my budget. The Sigma 50 1.4 seems to be the best value in term of sharpness, but the handling isn't great and the focus ring is too stiff for pleasant MF. The best option would be the Voigtländer 58mm 1.4, but it doesn't exist in EF mount. I personally can't justify buying a 500$ lens in the wrong mount, especially if the mount isn't a m42.

I hope rumors are true and 2014 is the year of the 50mm : Canon IS 50mm + Samyang 50mm 1.2 + Sigma Art 50mm 1.4 (although this one seems to be more of a speculation than a rumor).
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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2013, 05:02:47 PM »
I really like it when a CR2 rumour appears.  Though I even get more excited to see a CR3! ;)

I have been in the market for a new Canon 50mm for a number of years. As I’ve written in a number of CR threads previously, each of the current Canon 50mm lenses has their strengths, but also their notable weaknesses. I really appreciate what Sigma (& Tamron) have been doing with many of their recent lenses, however to ensure forward compatibility (and most accurate critical AF) – I prefer Canon, as even the Sigma 18-35mm (as superbly sharp and ground-breaking a lens as it is) has been noted to have some AF niggles – which really takes the wind out of its sails for me.

A new EF Canon 50mm lens between f/1.4 and f/2 would fill the only ‘gap’ that I really have in my set of lenses. Ideally (for me) a Canon 50 mm would have very good IQ wide open (sharp, lots of general & micro contrast, low CA) - would have absolutely awesome IQ 1 stop down, FTM USM and close MFD. IS would be a (much appreciated) bonus.   ;)

As for what the other lens – I don’t ‘need’ anything else, though I know various people are looking for a new Canon UWA prime or zoom (eg 14-24mm), or a telephoto zoom (eg 100-400mm ‘mkII’). I can’t see Canon updating any of it’s current “II” lenses, nor updating any of their L focal length primes for which they have recently brought out a non-L prime (so I actually doubt a new 35mm L will be on the cards).

If there are 2 lenses coming out, maybe a new non-L 85mm prime, as the current 85mm is good, but could be a little improved upon, and the 85mm L II is not that ‘new’. Or, actually I’m thinking a new TS-E … at a new focal length.

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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2013, 05:46:44 PM »
35 L II and the 50 f1.8 IS  8)

+1

Could also be update of 135L, but 35L is in more need IMO.

+1 again  8) These 35 and 50 mm lenses are direly needed to upgrade Canon's lens line-up.

I'm in agreement here.  These are both holes that need quick plugging, particularly considering that the Sigma is ending up in a lot of bags, and, for others of us, the new 35mm f/2 IS is actually in many ways superior to the current 35L.  It is my most recent addition.

Count me in for wanting the new 50mm.  I don't have an AF 50mm in my kit right now because I was never blown away by the (non L) 50mm choices.  I have owned and then sold two copies each of the 50mm f/1.8 and 1.4.  I have never bought the 50L because of both its own shortcomings and high price.  I make do with some vintage options (Takumar and Helios), and really enjoy those lenses.  But for a lot of work AF is really needed.

+1

Although I never use AF, I am also waiting for a great modern fast 50mm. The 50L is too expensive for me, and the 50 1.4 and 50 1.8 are too weak in term of build quality and handling IMO. The Zeiss 50mm 1.4 wide apertures performance aren't good enough for the price, although stopped down, there's nothing to complain about. The 55mm, although spectacular, is really out of my budget. The Sigma 50 1.4 seems to be the best value in term of sharpness, but the handling isn't great and the focus ring is too stiff for pleasant MF. The best option would be the Voigtländer 58mm 1.4, but it doesn't exist in EF mount. I personally can't justify buying a 500$ lens in the wrong mount, especially if the mount isn't a m42.

I hope rumors are true and 2014 is the year of the 50mm : Canon IS 50mm + Samyang 50mm 1.2 + Sigma Art 50mm 1.4 (although this one seems to be more of a speculation than a rumor).

Look into the Zeiss 50 f2, although far from the 1.2 aperture, but you mentioned the 50 f1.8. The Zeiss f2 is superb and really makes the Zeiss 1.4 look really bad... I love the 1:2 macro as a bonus to crop your portraits as close as you want with fantastic sharpness at f2. love the 50 perspective compared to a 100mm macro for example.
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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2013, 06:34:41 PM »
I think Im going to puke if one of those lenses aren't a tack sharp UWA-zoom lens.

16-35L III or 14-24L

Bring it.

Ditto! I'd love a 14-24L with stellar corner performance. Bring it!

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2013, 06:36:58 PM »
I'd really lime an UWA prime, maybe 18mm would be fun. There was also talk about a 16-50L a couple of months ago. That would be awesome.

For now I am only thinking about how to be able to fit the 24-70 Mkii in to the budget.
Like, not lime...

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Re: Two Lenses Coming for CP+? [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2013, 06:38:29 PM »
i hope for a new 100-400mm.

will buy one as soon as it´s out (and when it´s not over 2500 euro  ::)).

Yeah, I'm anxious for the 100-400L II as well.  I love my 100-400L, but it's an old design and a new one with greatly improved IQ is high on my list of "want that!" :D

I suspect there would be more fanfare around a 100-400L II release. That has been one of Canon's best selling and most popular lenses for well over a decade. Any replacement should be made well known. I'd certainly be happy to sell my current one and buy the Mark II if it was released...but it just doesn't feel like CP+ is the time or the place for it for some reason...

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