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Re: Next EOS not a 1Ds4 or 5D3.... could be a 1D Mark 5? [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2011, 06:34:10 AM »
I've been a keen watcher of this site for a few years now and registered for the first time to add my voice to this discussion. 

Give me great looking high ISO, improved dynamic range with only 20mp in a full frame sensor and I will be purchasing my first 1 series camera body.

At a reasonable price and hopefully with a few additional improvements of course.

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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2011, 06:49:25 AM »
Reality is no one knows.

1D5? 6D? Or even some mirrorless camera? The last possibility somehow has not been entertained.

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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2011, 07:21:54 AM »
If a new camera would be announced at the event on October 18th, does it make sense to invite CPS platinum members and presenting something different then a new top level (1D5) camera?

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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2011, 07:33:50 AM »
If a new camera would be announced at the event on October 18th, does it make sense to invite CPS platinum members and presenting something different then a new top level (1D5) camera?

Agreed: the invited few need a real nice piece of meat...;-)
An 1DV FF (out of my range...saving up for a 5Diii or whatever will hit the street in its league)
fits perfectly with the newer canon line up after the 7D:

future 1Ds IV (high pixel count sensor)
1DV (high speed monster)
future 5Diii (higher pixel count sensor)
7D (APS-C speed monster)
60D 
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1xxxD

So CR has taken a good guess.
About 10 days from now we'll get the Rosendaal report ;-)



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Re: Next EOS not a 1Ds4 or 5D3.... could be a 1D Mark 5? [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2011, 07:35:30 AM »
I've been a keen watcher of this site for a few years now and registered for the first time to add my voice to this discussion. 

Give me great looking high ISO, improved dynamic range with only 20mp in a full frame sensor and I will be purchasing my first 1 series camera body.

At a reasonable price and hopefully with a few additional improvements of course.
Same here, but I'm afraid that the price is going to make me wince.

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2011, 07:45:49 AM »
I find this 1.3 to full frame transition to be ridicules. Think about the amount of sports photographers that have invested in thousands of pounds worth of lenses with the 1.3 crop in mind. It would really frustrate a regular user that in mind know his or her mm's. I can't see this rumour coming to life.


You made my day! What a laugh!!!

You forget that for every professional sports photographer there are at least 10 professional wedding and portrait photographers out there that do want to have a affordable full frame body.

The 1Ds is hardly an 'affordable' camera. The 5D2 is, but that lacks a proper AF and speed and can therefore hardly be called a professional camera.
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Re: Next EOS not a 1Ds4 or 5D3.... could be a 1D Mark 5? [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2011, 08:05:34 AM »
With the damaged plants in recents days, as reported on NR, we will be lucky to get anything! Some companies are really feeling the pain with all these natural disasters lately.

Im surprised there isnt an update in the CR news about these floodings in the last few days


Canon's plant is one for inkjet printers, and is not being used for the production of camera gear.

"Canon Inc. halted operations at its inkjet printer plant in Ayutthaya because of flooding and will keep the factory closed tomorrow as a precautionary measure, Hirotomo Fujimori, a Tokyo- based spokesman for the company, said by phone today. "



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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2011, 08:36:16 AM »
I find this 1.3 to full frame transition to be ridicules. Think about the amount of sports photographers that have invested in thousands of pounds worth of lenses with the 1.3 crop in mind. It would really frustrate a regular user that in mind know his or her mm's. I can't see this rumour coming to life.

This isn't an issue - to the best of my knowledge,  EF-S lenses won't fit the 1.3 crop 1D.

Even if they did fit, the sort of lenses professional sports photographers use are EF mount L type. which they can just go on using.

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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2011, 09:06:21 AM »
I think it seems like a good approach would be to have a relatively low MP count fast professional camera aimed at photojournalism, wildlife, sports, event photography, in all those cases you don't really have use of high MP count, and then make a separate high MP count camera for studio and landscape, which does not need to be fast.

I don't see that you could make enough differentiators between a high MP 5Dmk3 and a high MP 1Dxxx to make people by the 1D instead of 5D. With Nikon seemingly coming out with a 36 MP D800 I see it unlikely that 5Dmk3 will be low MP, and with a high MP 5Dmk3, I think it will be hard to sell a next generation 1Ds with the same or similar resolution figure.

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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2011, 09:09:31 AM »
I find this 1.3 to full frame transition to be ridicules. Think about the amount of sports photographers that have invested in thousands of pounds worth of lenses with the 1.3 crop in mind. It would really frustrate a regular user that in mind know his or her mm's. I can't see this rumour coming to life.

This isn't an issue - to the best of my knowledge,  EF-S lenses won't fit the 1.3 crop 1D.

Even if they did fit, the sort of lenses professional sports photographers use are EF mount L type. which they can just go on using.

I think Manxdip's point was that they would lose 30% of their reach, which could be a big deal, depending on someone's shooting style and the lenses and combinations they use.

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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2011, 09:59:46 AM »
with all this talk of merging the 1Ds and 1D could this be it, are we getting half a story.. could this 18mp be the 1.3 crop.. if so what would that make the full frame MP count..


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Re: Next EOS not a 1Ds4 or 5D3.... could be a 1D Mark 5? [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2011, 10:37:36 AM »
could this 18mp be the 1.3 crop.. if so what would that make the full frame MP count..

You'd need a 30 MP sensor to have an 18 MP 'APS-H/1.3x crop mode'. 

I agree that a switch from APS-H to FF for the 1D line, with no big MP increase, seems unlikely - exactly for the FoV effect that the 1.3x crop delivers.  So, if they do merge the lines, they really need to satisfy both 1D and 1Ds users - i.e., a high-res FF sensor and a fast frame rate, even if the latter comes only in 'crop mode'.  In that case, the 1.3x mode would need to be at least the resolution of the 1D IV.  I agree that an 18 MP 1.3x mode on a 30 MP FF sensor would actually make sense for a 1D V that merges the 1D and 1Ds lines...but that's not the substance of this rumor.
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Re: Next EOS not a 1Ds4 or 5D3.... could be a 1D Mark 5? [CR2]
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2011, 02:46:58 PM »
I think it seems like a good approach would be to have a relatively low MP count fast professional camera aimed at photojournalism, wildlife, sports, event photography, in all those cases you don't really have use of high MP count, and then make a separate high MP count camera for studio and landscape, which does not need to be fast.

I don't see that you could make enough differentiators between a high MP 5Dmk3 and a high MP 1Dxxx to make people by the 1D instead of 5D. With Nikon seemingly coming out with a 36 MP D800 I see it unlikely that 5Dmk3 will be low MP, and with a high MP 5Dmk3, I think it will be hard to sell a next generation 1Ds with the same or similar resolution figure.

wildlife photographers tend to need the highest MP counts of all

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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2011, 09:20:29 AM »
Hi guys.

One of Norways biggest camera stores, FotoVideo, is campaigning Canon 1D Mark IV. One can trade old cameras and get discount on Canon 1D Mark IV. Could point to the in the direction of a 1D Mark V launch. Anyone seen similar campaign in other countries?   

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